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Snowflakes?

Lots of old people are snowflakes, no wonder young ones are too. Does the official review think that mental distress only started this year.

I understand they have mental distress but a lot of that is due to being spoilt little snowflakes.
 
Give 'em a damn good thrashing - and take their fucking phones away

Most of them are too thick to have a mental issue
 
astleyfox said:
They have it worse than we did, really? Maybe the “expectations monster”, raising its ugly head again.
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I didn't go to University but if I had I wouldn't be leaving with anything between £40K-£80k in debt.
House prices weren't 7.5 times your salary.
I knew I'd get a state pension.
Many of us got final salary pensions.

If you got bullied it (generally) stopped when you got home.

You normally had one interview to get a job (may have been a panel) but nowadays can be a seven long process inclusing first getting past AI.
 
What? said:
Quite right going to university for 25 hours a week is much worse than doing 45 hours a week down the pit or working in heavy industry
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Better to sit back & let a crypto billionaire line your pockets.

As an aside, you’ve missed the point Hackney made - it’s not so much what they’re doing but the options & possibilities thereafter.

The pit & heavy industry can only support so many jobs.
 
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I didn't go to University but if I had I wouldn't be leaving with anything between £40K-£80k in debt.
House prices weren't 7.5 times your salary.
I knew I'd get a state pension.
Many of us got final salary pensions.

If you got bullied it (generally) stopped when you got home.

You normally had one interview to get a job (may have been a panel) but nowadays can be a seven long process inclusing first getting past AI.
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I went to university, my parents were poor, I worked everyday alongside my degree.
Nobody has to own a house - it's a stupid argument.
I didn't know that people weren't going to get a state pension, but if that's the case then don't buy fancy phones and 200 pairs of brand trainers buy cheaper ones and save.
 
Mistryman said:
Better to sit back & let a crypto billionaire line your pockets.

As an aside, you’ve missed the point Hackney made - it’s not so much what they’re doing but the options & possibilities thereafter.

The pit & heavy industry can only support so many jobs.
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Parents need to step up then - or not have kids in the first place :-)
 
Mistryman said:
Better to sit back & let a crypto billionaire line your pockets.

As an aside, you’ve missed the point Hackney made - it’s not so much what they’re doing but the options & possibilities thereafter.

The pit & heavy industry can only support so many jobs.
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Of course the country is positively festooned with crypto billionaires who used to work down the pit
 
hackneyfox said:
I didn't go to University but if I had I wouldn't be leaving with anything between £40K-£80k in debt.
House prices weren't 7.5 times your salary.
I knew I'd get a state pension.
Many of us got final salary pensions.

If you got bullied it (generally) stopped when you got home.

You normally had one interview to get a job (may have been a panel) but nowadays can be a seven long process inclusing first getting past AI.
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As for AI, all the so called 'top jobs' are applied for with a massive input from AI & then scrutinised by AI. Make further education a waste of time. This is the future folks.
 
Prof said:
I went to university, my parents were poor, I worked everyday alongside my degree.
Nobody has to own a house - it's a stupid argument.
I didn't know that people weren't going to get a state pension, but if that's the case then don't buy fancy phones and 200 pairs of brand trainers buy cheaper ones and save.
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You're right, nobody has to own a house, but it is something that is almost expected of you in this country compared to others.
If you don't own a house you'll continue to pay rent until they you leave that property in a box. We don't have rent controls here like they do across Europe so I don't think your argument stands up.
My lad is aware that i'll receive a half decent state pension and that by the time he retires it'll be worth fuck all.

University education was effectively free, we didn't start paying into a private pension that early and many of us didn't buy a house till 30/35.
Nowadays you not only have to pay off your student debt (should you earn enough), you need to pay into a pension pretty sharpish and your rent will break you so you struggle to ever find the 10% deposit you need for your 40 year mortgage.

You can't live a 'normal'life without some kind of fancy phone, how many kids do you actually know?
My lad is doing a tough medical degree in Leeds, follows his team (us thankfully), has a girlfriend in London and still works up to 20 hours a week.

You've done what you promised yourself you'd never do, you've turned into your Dad!!!!!
 
I'm just giving alternative views. I get tired of people whining about how bad life is for them when their lives are in the top 20% of the world.

Our kids don't have it bad, they have it damn good and if you're lad uses his medical degree well he'll probably be earning good money too and having a much better retirement than most of us.
 
“Spud” Taylor came up from Bagworth pit and became a fast bowler for Leicestershire and England. Even went on the Kerry Packer circus with Gatting & Co. Saw him the other week filling up with petrol at Sutton Elms Shell forecourt. Although it might have been “Lord Lucan”.
The most famous pit to fast bowler was Harold Larwood!
 
……But “Spud” always had a decent “turn of speed” as proved when we saw him being chased across the tracks by a large group of Pompey fans at Fratton Station in 1971. He was a skinhead back then!
 
…..Earl Shilton born, and Micky Hoss would often refer to him on here as Les “Don Bradman” Taylor due to his eclectic lower order batting (at 10 or 11). David Gower once declared a Leics innings with only 20 runs needed to avoid a follow on with Sylvester Clarke bowling at rampaging top speed and with last man Les trudging reluctantly to the middle. Halfway there Gower just shook his head,decided to declare,and said later “I just couldn’t do it to him”!
He did buck the trend only on one occasion when batting at 11 against Glamorgan in 1981 he got his highest first class score of 60. So unusual and surprising was this “phenomenon” that his teammate at the other end had to walk down to tell him to acknowledge the applause on reaching his half century!
 
Prof said:
I get tired of people whining about how bad life is for them when their lives are in the top 20% of the world.
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So they shouldn't have aspirations because people live in absolute poverty?

Social media has led to young people feeling more under pressure than ever. Rightly or wrongly, people are made to feel inadequate if they don't wear the right clothes, have the right body shape, own the right car, own a flat/house that's decorated and furnished in the right way. It's becoming harder to achieve what they perceive as success as outlined by Hackney above, the cost of buying a house is much more than it used to be, university is expensive and burdens people with debt. It's all you baby boomers and Gen Xers who never had it so good calling the younger generation snowflakes.
 
Club_B00k_Crutchless said:
So they shouldn't have aspirations because people live in absolute poverty?

Social media has led to young people feeling more under pressure than ever. Rightly or wrongly, people are made to feel inadequate if they don't wear the right clothes, have the right body shape, own the right car, own a flat/house that's decorated and furnished in the right way. It's becoming harder to achieve what they perceive as success as outlined by Hackney above, the cost of buying a house is much more than it used to be, university is expensive and burdens people with debt. It's all you baby boomers and Gen Xers who never had it so good calling the younger generation snowflakes.
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These things are not new. Well Social Media is new but people being under pressure and made to feel inadequate etc. is not new. If it never happened to you or Hackney then you are the lucky, maybe I could say privileged, ones. Some things are worse now than they were, some things are better. Instead of looking at the few things that , maybe, are worse, look at all those things that are better.
 
Prof said:
These things are not new. Well Social Media is new but people being under pressure and made to feel inadequate etc. is not new. If it never happened to you or Hackney then you are the lucky, maybe I could say privileged, ones. Some things are worse now than they were, some things are better. Instead of looking at the few things that , maybe, are worse, look at all those things that are better.
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I never said they were new, but it's pervasive. it's online, on TV and social media. It's constant. It's not just these issues, people are being called snowflakes if they struggle with anxiety, told to man up. "These things never happened in our day". Well they did, but it was brushed off as people being thick or soft.
 
Club_B00k_Crutchless said:
I never said they were new, but it's pervasive. it's online, on TV and social media. It's constant. It's not just these issues, people are being called snowflakes if they struggle with anxiety, told to man up. "These things never happened in our day". Well they did, but it was brushed off as people being thick or soft.
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Nail, head, bosh! We did suffer all these things. Modern diktat requires that younkers share their anxieties, talk about them. In many cases, that involves taking to Facebook and telling half the world what a hard time they are having. I think that culture has gone way too far. Talk to professionals, by all means get help. But the first line of defence needs to be to “man up”. Bear it with a little fortitude. That has been taken completely out of the equation, and suicide and self harm stats are through the roof, it has far from improved things. To be fair to them, Profs right, their parents have a lot to answer to.
 
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