Bataille de Waterloo

So English is not a race, well given I was born in England am I Irish, Scottish or Welsh in your world dickie.
 
So there was only British fighting for the British Army at Waterloo given there are no English, you have racism down to a fine art .
So just what races are there in your world, if there are none it's impossible to be racist.
 
Not everything born in a barn is a horse.

That's Arthur's response to the idea that he was Irish. Quite a clever response considering the Biblical element. George Bernard Shaw said that he was Irish, because basically, Wellington was a genius and he wanted to bag them all for Ireland. But bearing in mind, he did the same with William Blake, who I think was a Londoner, we shouldn't take too much notice.
I've no doubt that Wellington was a genius. He never really lost against the French and was predominantly outnumbered. He also knew that if he did lose one big battle in Portugal or Spain, there was not going to be a '2nd' British army that he could take over. I think his British army was at least 25% Irish.
 
Last edited:
Barrel said:
So there was only British fighting for the British Army at Waterloo given there are no English, you have racism down to a fine art .
So just what races are there in your world, if there are none it's impossible to be racist.
Click to expand...
Who said there was no English you absolute thicko.
I said there were not many English fighting at Waterloo. That is a fact.
 
I find it interesting that our history is slowly being recreated and victories are now painted as failures by those that hate everything British, given most people who choose to come to live in the UK because of its values and history why try to rewrite both.
 
It's also the anniversary of the Battle of Agincourt today , dickie will now tell us no English took part in that either and the French beat themselves.
 
Tell me that racist crap about there is no race of English people again, racism is an easy get out when you post total nonsense.
 
Anyone who looks at the Regimental records of the British army of the 17 and 18 00s will be struck by the sheer numbers of Irish fighting for the English ,when i was young i was lucky enough to have talked to a man who had actually talked to a man who had fought in the battle ,he had been caught by Polish Lancers and wounded very badly .
 
fowlpenlooney said:
Anyone who looks at the Regimental records of the British army of the 17 and 18 00s will be struck by the sheer numbers of Irish fighting for the English ,when i was young i was lucky enough to have talked to a man who had actually talked to a man who had fought in the battle ,he had been caught by Polish Lancers and wounded very badly .
Click to expand...
I bet that was fascinating. We look upon that at proper history so to have that actual link is a bit mind blowing
 
Not sure if it's true or not, remember reading somewhere that veterans of the battle became immune from any sort of criminal prosecution in civil life afterwards. Within reason I'd imagine. There's a saying attached to it:

Have you been to Waterloo
I have been to Waterloo
It does not matter what you do
If you've been to Waterloo
 
AFCDorset said:
Unusually balanced Richard, (y)
Click to expand...
My posts are always balanced (unless I'm taking the piss or on a wind up)
I guess my politics do lean towards the left if I was getting labelled but I've realised over the years that left and right is irrelevant and we should steer clear from that mantra. The new buzz word is "Marxist" replacing the "far left" slogan. When in fact the establishment use those old values and fears to destroy anyone who stands up to the establishment and want to change things. After seeing the way Corbyn was destroyed by the establishment I'm wise enough to believe that the establishment can and will do the same to any maverick deemed as "far right"
Those that spout Marxist and ultra right just play into the hands of the establishment to ensure the old guard continue on the path they have chosen for us while they laugh all the way to the bank.
 
The whole left and right thing is becoming old news, as I said earlier it has become an argument based in dogma, pointless!

Corbyn is an interesting case. As an 'old school' British marxist (that word again) I could kind of respect that, hopelessly wrong but sort of well meaning.

What I think scuppered him was the hypocrisy and politicking. Portraying himself as a 'man of the people' from an expensive home in Islington did not sit well with some and his failure to support Brexit, as a real left winger should was disappointing.

Mostly though it was the politicking, the failure to be clear and consistent, to answer straight questions made him no different to the Torys, that for me was his downfall.
 
AFCDorset said:
The whole left and right thing is becoming old news, as I said earlier it has become an argument based in dogma, pointless!

Corbyn is an interesting case. As an 'old school' British marxist (that word again) I could kind of respect that, hopelessly wrong but sort of well meaning.

What I think scuppered him was the hypocrisy and politicking. Portraying himself as a 'man of the people' from an expensive home in Islington did not sit well with some and his failure to support Brexit, as a real left winger should was disappointing.

Mostly though it was the politicking, the failure to be clear and consistent, to answer straight questions made him no different to the Torys, that for me was his downfall.
Click to expand...
Can't win though can he. Literally. Was he supposed to give it away and get a council house? He grew up well off but his beliefs led him towards socialism or Marxism according to some. It's like someone growing up in poverty but having right-wing views. Not really the parties of the people are they? Sorry, back to right or left but it's relevant here.
 
Club_B00k_Crutchless said:
Can't win though can he. Literally. Was he supposed to give it away and get a council house? He grew up well off but his beliefs led him towards socialism or Marxism according to some. It's like someone growing up in poverty but having right-wing views. Not really the parties of the people are they? Sorry, back to right or left but it's relevant here.
Click to expand...
Of course not, when he was an ordinary MP it did not much matter but as leader, he needed to be more upfront and straightforward, dump the 'man of the people' schtick and show some leadership. Never happened.
 
AFCDorset said:
Of course not, when he was an ordinary MP it did not much matter but as leader, he needed to be more upfront and straightforward, dump the 'man of the people' schtick and show some leadership. Never happened.
Click to expand...
AFCDorset said:
Of course not, when he was an ordinary MP it did not much matter but as leader, he needed to be more upfront and straightforward, dump the 'man of the people' schtick and show some leadership. Never happened.
Click to expand...
IIRC at the time of the Grenfell tragedy he got down there and showed a lot more understanding and empathy than any of the cowards in our Govt at the time did. just one example.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top