Brexit party to be relaunched

Isn't this the actor Laurence Fox's party that is rising up against the whole BLM agenda and claims that it wants to give the silent majority a voice?
There was some noise about this over a month ago.
 
NorthwestFox said:
Isn't this the actor Laurence Fox's party that is rising up against the whole BLM agenda and claims that it wants to give the silent majority a voice?
There was some noise about this over a month ago.
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No, his is called re-claim. That's what i meant by further diluting the Tory vote as they'll no doubt be attracting many of the Brexit voters who went to the tories.
 
Club_B00k_Crutchless said:
Why do you think they are forming the parties then? Just for show? Or maybe fight an election when there is one?
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Controlled opposition.

We already have what is a defacto one party state, with the exception of a few Labour MPs who actually do have real, hard left views, and a handful of genuine conservatives, who keep very quiet about everything.

Everyone else fits quite tidily into what the europeans usually call Social Democrats.
 
AFCDorset said:
Controlled opposition.

We already have what is a defacto one party state, with the exception of a few Labour MPs who actually do have real, hard left views, and a handful of genuine conservatives, who keep very quiet about everything.

Everyone else fits quite tidily into what the europeans usually call Social Democrats.
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Agreed it would be nice to have a real opposition party to hold the government to account. Real people with the country at Heart.
 
I think what the country needs is an anti-Farage political party.

Take it the poor mite has low funds in his PayPal.

Aren't we ALL anti-lockdown?
 
Running Fox said:
Agreed it would be nice to have a real opposition party to hold the government to account. Real people with the country at Heart.
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He smokes & drinks = qualification as a "real" person.

In reality, nothing but a person with his own interests as a priority. That he's hoodwinked so many into supporting him financially & politically, tells you how gullible the British public is.
 
"In reality, nothing but a person with his own interests as a priority"

I'm struggling to think of any MP that doesn't fall into that category

Why do people give a flying one about Farage?
 
Mistryman said:
He smokes & drinks = qualification as a "real" person.

In reality, nothing but a person with his own interests as a priority. That he's hoodwinked so many into supporting him financially & politically, tells you how gullible the British public is.
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Your entitled to your opinion, but people are only gullible in your eyes because you dislike everything about Farage.
I could the same about BLM because they have a political agenda I don't support.
And before you jump on the bandwagon I am against all forms of blatant racism, and I mean all, because its not an exclusive club to one section of society.
 
Farage is the epitome of the 'single issue' politician.

Giving the country a chance of getting out of the EU was, for me, a quite magnificent effort, and for that he will forever have my gratitude.

Since the referendum he as become largely irrelevant, mostly down to his own poor decision making.
 
AFCDorset said:
Farage is the epitome of the 'single issue' politician.

Giving the country a chance of getting out of the EU was, for me, a quite magnificent effort, and for that he will forever have my gratitude.

Since the referendum he as become largely irrelevant, mostly down to his own poor decision making.
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I can't quite get my head round the fact that you see it as a 'magnificent effort', particularly in the context of a 'no deal' since Farage is not going to suffer any of the negatives that the rest of us will, pandemic or otherwise.

The irony of the man who stopped our 'freedom of movement', now relaunching his company (& it's a company, not a party regardless of what anyone thinks) because he thinks intra-Britain freedom of movement is limited by the lockdown measures, is not lost.
 
Mistryman said:
I can't quite get my head round the fact that you see it as a 'magnificent effort', particularly in the context of a 'no deal' since Farage is not going to suffer any of the negatives that the rest of us will, pandemic or otherwise.

The irony of the man who stopped our 'freedom of movement', now relaunching his company (& it's a company, not a party regardless of what anyone thinks) because he thinks intra-Britain freedom of movement is limited by the lockdown measures, is not lost.
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Thats OK MM.

I appreciate that it is difficult for you to get your 'head round the fact' that others have a different opinion on such matters, I totally understand, after all, having different views is not exactly 'progressive'.

Personally I can't wait to get back to the pre-EU system of the 70s and 80s when, shock horror, you had to carry a passport in order to travel, work and holiday in Europe as I did for much of those decades.

It might also remind a few people of the times when you needed such documents to enter another country, rather better than the system we have now that allows any thug or criminal to enter virtually without restriction.
 
AFCDorset said:
Thats OK MM.

I appreciate that it is difficult for you to get your 'head round the fact' that others have a different opinion on such matters, I totally understand, after all, having different views is not exactly 'progressive'.

Personally I can't wait to get back to the pre-EU system of the 70s and 80s when, shock horror, you had to carry a passport in order to travel, work and holiday in Europe as I did for much of those decades.

It might also remind a few people of the times when you needed such documents to enter another country, rather better than the system we have now that allows any thug or criminal to enter virtually without restriction.
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Freedom of movement and travel are completely different things.
 
AFCDorset said:
Thats OK MM.

I appreciate that it is difficult for you to get your 'head round the fact' that others have a different opinion on such matters, I totally understand, after all, having different views is not exactly 'progressive'.

Personally I can't wait to get back to the pre-EU system of the 70s and 80s when, shock horror, you had to carry a passport in order to travel, work and holiday in Europe as I did for much of those decades.

It might also remind a few people of the times when you needed such documents to enter another country, rather better than the system we have now that allows any thug or criminal to enter virtually without restriction.
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I'd say the way I was talking about the subject was in a much broader sense, rather than just the fact that you carry around certain documents or criminals that happened to get through, as you mention.

But I'd maintain that none of the negatives, that morally, financially or limits one aspirationally because of a no-deal Brexit, are going to affect Farage.

Farage himself has flip-flopped from "No deal Brexit won't happen" to "We'll have countries queuing up to trade with us" to "No deal was the only way to exit". What a charlatan.
 
AFCDorset said:
Thats OK MM.

I appreciate that it is difficult for you to get your 'head round the fact' that others have a different opinion on such matters, I totally understand, after all, having different views is not exactly 'progressive'.

Personally I can't wait to get back to the pre-EU system of the 70s and 80s when, shock horror, you had to carry a passport in order to travel, work and holiday in Europe as I did for much of those decades.

It might also remind a few people of the times when you needed such documents to enter another country, rather better than the system we have now that allows any thug or criminal to enter virtually without restriction.
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When did you last enter Europe without a passport?
When did you last get out of this country without showing a passport?
 
Back in the UK I was regularly asked to produce my passport when I started a new job.
 
SardiniaFox said:
Freedom of movement and travel are completely different things.
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Agreed. But they should both change significantly if we ever properly leave the EU.

Personally I think there are distinct advantages to the old system for both 'travel' and 'freedom of movement'.

Mistryman said:
I'd say the way I was talking about the subject was in a much broader sense, rather than just the fact that you carry around certain documents or criminals that happened to get through, as you mention.

But I'd maintain that none of the negatives, that morally, financially or limits one aspirationally because of a no-deal Brexit, are going to affect Farage.

Farage himself has flip-flopped from "No deal Brexit won't happen" to "We'll have countries queuing up to trade with us" to "No deal was the only way to exit". What a charlatan.
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I really do not see why a no-deal Brexit would influence anyone morally or aspirationally, that kind of escapes me.

As I said, Farage has been largely useless since the referendum, though he is a very much a peripheral figure. It is a moot point and very much speculation on my part, but I think that a positive, determined government, enacting Brexit as quickly as possible, and working in the best interests of this country would have achieved very different results.
 
hackneyfox said:
When did you last enter Europe without a passport?
When did you last get out of this country without showing a passport?
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Actually some truth in that. Though to be fair I have been waved through passport control in Europe a fair few times in the last 20 years or so as I lived and had a business in Spain for much of that time so was back and forth a lot.
SardiniaFox said:
Back in the UK I was regularly asked to produce my passport when I started a new job.
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So not that difficult and no real impediment to Brexit.

Doing anything 'official' in Spain required the production of a passport, not that different from living and working in Germany in the 70s and 80s. Nobody likes official paperwork, but it is really not that big an issue.
 
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