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Foxgolfer

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What are you blathering about ? I really haven’t a clue any more .
I think the Man child’s hundreds of millions of debts will soon be catching up with him by the sound of it . Even the poor saps sending him their hard earned aren’t going to save him this time .
I get the feeling he knows he’s gone too far this time hence the pathetic grovelling .
 

Richardvanles

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Cant i just tune into the bbc & find that stuff out?
Unfortunately not.
But the credible evidence is out there from numerous sources.
Shameful, but hey Americas a democracy don't you know and Trump was trying to destroy it.
Well if that's the sort of democracy Trump was trying to destroy he's got my blessing.
 

Richardvanles

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What are you blathering about ? I really haven’t a clue any more .
I think the Man child’s hundreds of millions of debts will soon be catching up with him by the sound of it . Even the poor saps sending him their hard earned aren’t going to save him this time .
I get the feeling he knows he’s gone too far this time hence the pathetic grovelling .
You need to stop it pal. It's like everyone's sitting 'round having a sensible debate and you're sitting in the corner playing with your toy cars making Brum Brum noises then shouting something out.
No one can work out whether you're trying to join in the conversation or you've got fucking Tourette's.
 

sixthswan

Don't Welch
You think Donald is more racist?
Where’s your credible evidence?
I mean, some of the things Boris has said at least you have to concede it being a close call.
Joking aside, there’s always that nagging doubt that, talking about Trump now, over here, are we being given the full facts, because I really don’t trust our media to be honest, with good reason. So one question, please answer as honest as possible. If Trump is so bad, can you name one thing he’s done that’s worse than what happened in Tuskegee. Think about the amount of Presidents that this covers.

Yes I think that Donald is more racist. His dad was in the KKK and just a casual look at the record of Trump, shows he is racist. Can't be bothered listing all the examples. Though I think Boris has had his moments too.

I'm aware of the Tuskegee stuff.

So what do we do from now on then. If a President hasn't done anything as bad as not stopping Tuskegee; then they can be absolved of all wrong-doing? How do you know he hasn't done anything worse? Why does the wrong-doing have to be worse than something from decades ago?

How many sexual lawsuits has Donald had? How many convictions of all sorts await? How many Presidents have been impeached twice?
 

Foxgolfer

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You need to stop it pal. It's like everyone's sitting 'round having a sensible debate and you're sitting in the corner playing with your toy cars making Brum Brum noises then shouting something out.
No one can work out whether you're trying to join in the conversation or you've got fucking Tourette's.
So his banks are cutting off his loan facilities - and im not contributing? . Reading the utter fatuous baseless nonsense you have dribbled on to this thread , the irony of your post is weapons grade .
 

Richardvanles

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Not really,

But I am struggling a little with the conflation you have made to presidents
Oh ok, so declaring the water safe and drinking a glass as Obama did while up to 12'000 kids were exposed to massive levels of lead poisoning and other diseases causing the deaths of at least 12 people and several hundred still borns isn't nothing Obama should be ashamed of.
Ending in one conviction (1 year probation and a piddly fine)
 

Richardvanles

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So his banks are cutting off his loan facilities - and im not contributing? . Reading the utter fatuous baseless nonsense you have dribbled on to this thread , the irony of your post is weapons grade .
Shut up, I've told you once. You're making yourself look stupid
 

Foxgolfer

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Still no evidence that the pandemic is false, or that the US election was rigged. Only deflection...
It’s like Groundhog day - the same old shite from Dickie and co. - “ the credible evidence is out there” - well no it isn’t . At all .
The death of truth will be Trumps legacy .
 

Richardvanles

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Yes I think that Donald is more racist. His dad was in the KKK and just a casual look at the record of Trump, shows he is racist. Can't be bothered listing all the examples. Though I think Boris has had his moments too.

I'm aware of the Tuskegee stuff.

So what do we do from now on then. If a President hasn't done anything as bad as not stopping Tuskegee; then they can be absolved of all wrong-doing? How do you know he hasn't done anything worse? Why does the wrong-doing have to be worse than something from decades ago?

How many sexual lawsuits has Donald had? How many convictions of all sorts await? How many Presidents have been impeached twice?
So has he done anything as bad as Tuskegee? In your humble opinion obviously.
 

Richardvanles

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It’s like Groundhog day - the same old shite from Dickie and co. - “ the credible evidence is out there” - well no it isn’t . At all .
The death of truth will be Trumps legacy .
Jesus, shut up! The adults are talking.
Wait, I can hear the ice cream van. Here's a quid, get yourself a cornet.
 

sixthswan

Don't Welch
So has he done anything as bad as Tuskegee? In your humble opinion obviously.

We don't know whether Trump would have done anything about Tuskegee, if he was President at the time.

But his own track record with black people and putting children in cages is on public record. Do you have any comments about that, in your humble opinion?
 

Foxgolfer

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and you wanted to be a proffessional gambler. Do you know why you failed ? because its obvious to me. The name of the game is to gather information, look where others are not for this info, make contacts that can help you with this info, appraise it with a logical mind then put your money on all of this. Reading your garbage, you have no ability to do any of this, you seem so ate up with hate you focus on a subject (Trump in this case) and ignore all practical logic because you are projecting your mental issues. You can not think critically. I could pull every comment of yours to bits, bit there isn't any point, it won't sink in, in fact you won't be able to even grasp it so l don't bother.

You acted like a 5 year old a few months ago when you threw a random insult but aimed at certain people on in here in your OP. I pulled you and called you a fat cunt, l used theses words because of what you was implying by calling people, me included, on here "Gammons". You are a fat useless cunt but you wouldn't have had to hear it if you hadn't called others basically the same (Gammon).

l mean the things you say about Trump, ffs, do you really think he's thick and stupid ? no matter if you hate him (with no reason that you can quote except youre need for a hate figure) or not, hes a billionaire you're a skint member. Do you realise how off the mark you are ? l guess you won't understand what i'm saying unfortunately. l put my hand out to you to help when you was going on about topping yourself, but you insulted me. You act like a prick, thats why you are where you are.
You seem to equate intelligence with money . Well put aside he was born into billions and bankrupted himself 3 times ( and another soon to come ) , I grant you Trump is very good at manipulating gullible people and bullying his way into power .
Other than that he seems totally ignorant of history , science , geography and pretty much everything else as far as I can see .
 

AFCDorset

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Discussing public health is always very difficult, the numbers can be frightening. It is a contentious and emotive issue and any attempts at a rational and dispassionate debate can look extremely callous.

For the first time in many years ordinary people have been made aware of what death means. Before 2020, it was largely something that took place behind closed doors and involved. at most, immediate family and close friends. Since 2020 it is all over the media.

What this has brought home to people is that dying is often a painful and distressing business, offering any views that go against the 'narrative' makes you an unfeeling monster.

The 2019/20 version of the corona virus seems quite nasty, but is really only deadly to the old and infirm. Deaths, in the under 65s where covid is the major cause are pretty rare but pointing this out invites abuse as a 'covid denier'.

Mostly though the issue for me is the response, the last serious (virus) infection, 'swineflu' was spread over 2 winters, 2009/10 and 2010/11 and the number of deaths were comparable to the current outbreak. In this instance it was not deemed necessary to shut down the economy and destroy the social and family life of the country. Surprisingly we worked through it and came out the other side.

Hence the scam, it is the manipulation of a rather serious health issue into something that it is not and using the fear generated to wreck the country.
 

Richardvanles

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We don't know whether Trump would have done anything about Tuskegee, if he was President at the time.

But his own track record with black people and putting children in cages is on public record. Do you have any comments about that, in your humble opinion?
Bush and Obama were at it well before Trump but it’s all Trumps fault.
 

Richardvanles

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Discussing public health is always very difficult, the numbers can be frightening. It is a contentious and emotive issue and any attempts at a rational and dispassionate debate can look extremely callous.

For the first time in many years ordinary people have been made aware of what death means. Before 2020, it was largely something that took place behind closed doors and involved. at most, immediate family and close friends. Since 2020 it is all over the media.

What this has brought home to people is that dying is often a painful and distressing business, offering any views that go against the 'narrative' makes you an unfeeling monster.

The 2019/20 version of the corona virus seems quite nasty, but is really only deadly to the old and infirm. Deaths, in the under 65s where covid is the major cause are pretty rare but pointing this out invites abuse as a 'covid denier'.

Mostly though the issue for me is the response, the last serious (virus) infection, 'swineflu' was spread over 2 winters, 2009/10 and 2010/11 and the number of deaths were comparable to the current outbreak. In this instance it was not deemed necessary to shut down the economy and destroy the social and family life of the country. Surprisingly we worked through it and came out the other side.

Hence the scam, it is the manipulation of a rather serious health issue into something that it is not and using the fear generated to wreck the country.
The next question is why are they wrecking the country...
 

Richardvanles

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Still no evidence that the pandemic is false, or that the US election was rigged. Only deflection...
I’ve no idea if the US election was rigged.
I’ve not met many people who claim the pandemic is false.
I question the response.
I don’t believe this Government can be so utterly useless in a constant basis.
I don’t believe the main stream news can be so forgiving and I certainly don’t believe the fear they pump out night after night.
I don’t believe the “opposition” can be so toothless.
So on that basis I look at alternatives to why they are doing what they are doing.
 

Foxgolfer

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The next question is why are they wrecking the country...
Because it has been spectacularly mishandled .Spoke to a mate in Vietnam. Got on to Covid and how he was coping . He said “ oh , we hardly talk about it here anymore”.
It’s not some mysterious conspiracy it’s just degrees of incompetence in governments across the world in response to a heath pandemic .
It’s that simple .
Our government is up there amongst the worst . There are signs we are getting the vaccine programme right . If so - in a years time we will be back to near normal and the nonsense opiated on here can be revisited .
Unfortunately the more lasting damage of Brexit will not be so easily fixed
 

Richardvanles

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Because it has been spectacularly mishandled .Spoke to a mate in Vietnam. Got on to Covid and how he was coping . He said “ oh , we hardly talk about it here anymore”.
It’s not some mysterious conspiracy it’s just degrees of incompetence in governments across the world in response to a heath pandemic .
It’s that simple .
Our government is up there amongst the worst . There are signs we are getting the vaccine programme right . If so - in a years time we will be back to near normal and the nonsense opiated on here can be revisited .
Unfortunately the more lasting damage of Brexit will not be so easily fixed
Seems like all your “mates” get as far away from you as possible.
 

BarrowFox

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Oh ok, so declaring the water safe and drinking a glass as Obama did while up to 12'000 kids were exposed to massive levels of lead poisoning and other diseases causing the deaths of at least 12 people and several hundred still borns isn't nothing Obama should be ashamed of.
Ending in one conviction (1 year probation and a piddly fine)

Hadn't the water supply been switched back a year before obama drank the flint water? I'd agree it was a crass gesture.

I'm still unclear with your conflation to obama? Are you saying it was his fault?
 
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