RegiRoka
Roofer
Barrow... I don't usually do this. But I have to be honest, the desire to tell you that you are a fucking twat is pretty overwhelming. Luckily, I won't be succumbing to the desire.Taking the piss by lying
I like Sidney
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Just so I'm clear,
if I'd had claimed I was taking the piss after my misquote that would have put me in the clear?
And I'm a twat for pointing out your hypocrisy.
Got it.
But isn't this all to avoid discussing the as yet unsubstantiated claims of Sidney Powel?
RegiRoka
Roofer
Let me introduce you to life on the Roof.
People take the piss. It's usually easy to spot. (Not always.) But that's how it works.
Now and then, people get serious. That's usually easy to spot too. (You were being serious.) D'ya gettit?
My hypocrisy?
"But isn't this all to avoid discussing the as yet unsubstantiated claims of Sidney Powel?"
As always, for me, there's loads worth discussing. Loads worth thinking about. And, ufortunately, the sneaking suspicion that we'll never really know the truth. But these days, I'm picky about who I want to discuss it with. High on the list of 'don't waste your time', are those that post misquotes and speculation that's disguised as fact.
Let me introduce you to life on the Roof.
People take the piss. It's usually easy to spot. (Not always.) But that's how it works.
Now and then, people get serious. That's usually easy to spot too. (You were being serious.) D'ya gettit?
My hypocrisy?
"But isn't this all to avoid discussing the as yet unsubstantiated claims of Sidney Powel?"
As always, for me, there's loads worth discussing. Loads worth thinking about. And, ufortunately, the sneaking suspicion that we'll never really know the truth. But these days, I'm picky about who I want to discuss it with. High on the list of 'don't waste your time', are those that post misquotes and speculation that's disguised as fact.
The thing is i also thinks there's loads worth raking through, and i agree when it comes to truths they are often elusive, we live in a world where despite having tools that make it easier to investigate its harder to get to the nub of things because of the weight of disinformation out there.
I did take tuckers words and add some flourish, that was a mistake, one I'll be sure to avoid in the future. I'm fairly new on here, but a long term lurker. I am though genuinely interested in finding out more about the world we live in and what really makes it tick.
peace
RegiRoka
Roofer
Okay, fair enough.
Adumass
Bentleys Roofer
In the ruling Judge Brann wrote that the Trump campaign had tried to "disenfranchise almost seven million voters".
He said his "court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations".
"In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state," the judge wrote.
I guess that clears it up. If they are not going to present any evidence to the actual judge, i think most reasonable people can conclude there is no evidence.
He said his "court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations".
"In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state," the judge wrote.
I guess that clears it up. If they are not going to present any evidence to the actual judge, i think most reasonable people can conclude there is no evidence.
AFCDorset
Roofer
Or they prefer to present the evidence in a higher court where the judge is not an Obama placeman?
Personally I believe that the election was stolen by the Democrats by massive fraud and that this is being covered up by the media and the 'deep state' working behind the scenes.
Sadly I think they might very well get away with it.
Richardvanles
Roofer
Why do you "believe" that?
I'll be honest, I haven't a clue. I live thousands of miles away and realise that the info that's fed to us is spin on both sides. Seems as though folk are believing what suits their allegiance or narrative with no real evidence.
as a thought exercise, what is the benefit of bringing multiple cases to court with no evidence?
Didn't Georgia complete a recount by hand? its reported that the recount was a few hundred votes different to the original machine count.
so do we surmise from this that the massive fraud and vote flipping took place in other states, just not in Georgia?
Club_B00k_Crutchless
Registered
Not them again. Who/what is this deep state?
Richardvanles
Roofer
Go to a bilderberg meeting and you'll see those who do their bidding and who reports into them.
Club_B00k_Crutchless
Registered
Last time I tried to get in Jon Ronson grassed me up to the bouncer.
Richardvanles
Roofer
I went to the one near Watford a few years ago. Watching them leave was like a who's who of murderers paedos and sociopaths
Outfoxed
Roofer
Just a gentle reminder that the original post was from a made up twitter account that has since been suspended.
There are two reasons the original poster did this, a) he knew it was a fake twitter account and wanted to spread false information and muddy the waters, for what reason I have no idea or b) he thought it was real and has been suckered into repeating a load of made up rubbish.
Either way doesn't reflect very well on the original poster.
There are two reasons the original poster did this, a) he knew it was a fake twitter account and wanted to spread false information and muddy the waters, for what reason I have no idea or b) he thought it was real and has been suckered into repeating a load of made up rubbish.
Either way doesn't reflect very well on the original poster.
AFCDorset
Roofer
I believe this is in order to bring the case in a higher court, eventually the Supreme Court.
The Georgia recount was just that, a recount. There was no attempt to validate the votes.
Horrible phrase I agree. Too huge a subject to even begin to discuss in it's entirety but plenty of on line information if you want to look.
AFCDorset
Roofer
Statement issued a couple of hours ago...
I agree with the campaign's statement that I am not part of the campaign's legal team. I never signed a retainer agreement or sent the President or the campaign a bill for my expenses or fees.
My intent has always been to expose all the fraud I could find and let the chips fall where they may--whether it be upon Republicans or Democrats.
The evidence I'm compiling is overwhelming that this software tool was used to shift millions of votes from President Trump and other Republican candidates to Biden and other Democrat candidates. We are proceeding to prepare our lawsuit and plan to file it this week. It will be epic.
We will not allow this great Republic to be stolen by communists from without and within or our votes altered or manipulated by foreign actors in Hong Kong, Iran, Venezuela, or Serbia, for example, who have neither regard for human life nor the people who are the engine of this exceptional country.
#WeThePeople elected Donald Trump and other Republican candidates to restore the vision of America as a place of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
You may assist this effort by making a non tax-deductible contribution to www.DefendingTheRepublic.org. #KrakenOnSteroids"
Sidney Powell
I agree with the campaign's statement that I am not part of the campaign's legal team. I never signed a retainer agreement or sent the President or the campaign a bill for my expenses or fees.
My intent has always been to expose all the fraud I could find and let the chips fall where they may--whether it be upon Republicans or Democrats.
The evidence I'm compiling is overwhelming that this software tool was used to shift millions of votes from President Trump and other Republican candidates to Biden and other Democrat candidates. We are proceeding to prepare our lawsuit and plan to file it this week. It will be epic.
We will not allow this great Republic to be stolen by communists from without and within or our votes altered or manipulated by foreign actors in Hong Kong, Iran, Venezuela, or Serbia, for example, who have neither regard for human life nor the people who are the engine of this exceptional country.
#WeThePeople elected Donald Trump and other Republican candidates to restore the vision of America as a place of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
You may assist this effort by making a non tax-deductible contribution to www.DefendingTheRepublic.org. #KrakenOnSteroids"
Sidney Powell
So you agree that there was no vote flipping in this state? but what is the issue you see with the vote validation?
Odd, because Trump was under the impression she was on his legal team
Adumass
Bentleys Roofer
can you explain AFC why it is preferential to get the case up to the supreme court?
i get that the supreme court is stacked in their favour, but why deliberately lose at a lower court and risk the count being certified? why not present the evidence and take the win at the lower court?
is it that a supreme court ruling can then be used in other states?
i get that the supreme court is stacked in their favour, but why deliberately lose at a lower court and risk the count being certified? why not present the evidence and take the win at the lower court?
is it that a supreme court ruling can then be used in other states?
Possibly, this remains to be seen.
its also possible that she was dumped after making claims that had no validity and in fact was damaging the Trump campaigns efforts.
AFCDorset
Roofer
The systematic 'vote flipping' was done by computer and is a separate issue.
She is on his legal team. Just not employed by him, the White House or any federal agencies.
As I said it, she is 'independent' which allows her to do and say things that she could not do if she was on the payroll.
She is on his legal team. Just not employed by him, the White House or any federal agencies.
As I said it, she is 'independent' which allows her to do and say things that she could not do if she was on the payroll.
AFCDorset
Roofer
Partly your final point but also because any ruling at a lower level can be appealed.
This is a complex political game and I make no claim to be an expert. I do believe that Giuliani has said the this is a multi-faceted campaign with several different pathways to tackling the fraud in the voting system.
First job though is to get Trump confirmed as president by December 14th, all the rest follows.
Walthamstowfox
Roofer
I wouldn't rely on Guilliani. He can't even buy a hair dye that doesn't run, & turns up at a garden centre rather than a hotel for his press conference.
Only following the initial machine count, the recount was done by people by hand.
surely you see that that means that in Georgia votes were not flipped by a computer somewhere, because if they had the hand recount would of been off, but it wasn't. how do you explain that?
But the result wouldn't of been the same if a physical vote for Trump and been flipped electronically to Biden.
when the physical votes were counted by hand any vote flipping would have come to light, do you agree?
could you explain what you mean about checks on validity, what is the issue here as you see it?
AFCDorset
Roofer
I do not know enough about the system to agree or disagree on exactly how the 'vote flipping' is carried out, other than it is done electronically before the physical count takes place,
The validity of postal votes is often suspect, addresses, DOB, signatures etc are rarely systematically checked. This is a very different issue to the organised 'vote flipping' that I believe has taken place across many states.
No proof at this stage, nor sources that I feel comfortable sharing, I still think it possible that the fraud will be buried very deep.
The validity of postal votes is often suspect, addresses, DOB, signatures etc are rarely systematically checked. This is a very different issue to the organised 'vote flipping' that I believe has taken place across many states.
No proof at this stage, nor sources that I feel comfortable sharing, I still think it possible that the fraud will be buried very deep.
The allegations on vote flipping as I understand them are that the machine counts the votes correctly and then either the machine flips a number of votes or thd data is sent somewhere, possibly a 3rd country, where the votes are flipped.
Eg
Out of a million physical votes split 50/50 for each candidate after flipping this would become
Trump 400k
Biden 600k
The good thing is that it's easy to check if this has happened, just count the ballots by hand, in this example a physical hand recount would show 500k votes each and the flipping fraud would be exposed.
So seeing how they have physically recounted each paper ballot and come up with the a result within a few hundred votes of the first machine count, it strongly indicates that electronic vote flipping did not take place in Georgia.
Adumass
Bentleys Roofer
They’ll say it was buried deep when nothing is exposed.
Same with all the other promises made in the last four years - about exposing the deep state, exposing the peados, the great reset , etc etc - that fizzled out in to nothing....
To someone on the outside, who doesn’t have access to all these sources, it looks like an awful lot of people are simply being taken for a ride...
Same with all the other promises made in the last four years - about exposing the deep state, exposing the peados, the great reset , etc etc - that fizzled out in to nothing....
To someone on the outside, who doesn’t have access to all these sources, it looks like an awful lot of people are simply being taken for a ride...