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Foxgolfer

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The joy of Johnson having to self isolate on his so called “freedom day” - aka let’s kill off the old unvaccinated, day 😄
 

SardiniaFox

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Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak were contacted by NHS Test and Trace as contacts of Sajid Javid Downing Street said the pair would take part in a pilot programme, where daily tests replace self-isolation
 

DagenhamFox

Blue Roofer
That has single handedly just killed the whole test and trace system at a time where the press are reporting many are deleting the app or turning off the notifications or the tracking part.

Nobody now will isolate even if they are pinged. Some of those will have caught the virus and will pass it on causing even more of a surge in cases.

Yet another massive error from our Prime Minister.
 

Running Fox

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Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak were contacted by NHS Test and Trace as contacts of Sajid Javid Downing Street said the pair would take part in a pilot programme, where daily tests replace self-isolation
Its in our faces now how they just do what they want, and we just have to obey.
 

Richardvanles

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Penny dropped yet?
Go on, swallow your pride and admit it. They’ve had your pants down and created trillions of debt out of nothing that your kids and grandkids will be paying back for years.
 

Club_B00k_Crutchless

Season Ticket Holder
Penny dropped yet?
Go on, swallow your pride and admit it. They’ve had your pants down and created trillions of debt out of nothing that your kids and grandkids will be paying back for years.
Well, I'm the last to defend this lot, but my daughter has tested positive. I had an email inviting me to take part in new study where I don't have to isolate if I take a daily test.

Move along, nothing to see here.
 

DagenhamFox

Blue Roofer
Penny dropped yet?
Go on, swallow your pride and admit it. They’ve had your pants down and created trillions of debt out of nothing that your kids and grandkids will be paying back for years.

And so we come back to a chat we had well over a year ago. Why would pretty much every nation in the world totally fuck up their economies just for shits and giggles?

They wouldn’t. None of them would.
 

Richardvanles

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And so we come back to a chat we had well over a year ago. Why would pretty much every nation in the world totally fuck up their economies just for shits and giggles?

They wouldn’t. None of them would.
Err they did. Haven’t you been watching the news with your mask and hand sanitizer?
You need to realise, fiat currency was at the end of its life. They can only survive by debt creating and fewer people were getting into debt. Shits and giggles eh. Explain to me why, just prior to all this bullshit the U.S banks were giving negative interest loans out and the UK were looking at doing something similar.
Go on, I’ve got all night.
Not doing it now though are they.
 

DagenhamFox

Blue Roofer
I know a man who knows a lot about this kind of thing, far more than I do.

What I do know is a few years ago we managed to pay off the debt from the Second World War. Once you’ve done that why would you put the country back into huge debt again if it was unnecessary?
 

Richardvanles

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I know a man who knows a lot about this kind of thing, far more than I do.

What I do know is a few years ago we managed to pay off the debt from the Second World War. Once you’ve done that why would you put the country back into huge debt again if it was unnecessary?
It was necessary. Fiat currency was dying in its arse throughout the world. A monetary system not backed by gold or silver has a limited life span and it was at the end of its life. Using covid gave governments the way out. To create debt.
 

Running Fox

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Vanles you’ll have to do better than that, I don’t understand a word you’re saying.

Maybe @ClaphamFox can explain a little better?
It would take many pages to explain it but Richard is right, the world banks fund the countries or as they really are ( Corporations ) the money is just paper with little value until it buys assets like property ,land , Gold or Silver and alike. This pandemic will leave some people broke and others mega Rich ( the Bankers and elite ) It is a reset as they have told us, population and wealth wise.
 

bnet

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It was necessary. Fiat currency was dying in its arse throughout the world. A monetary system not backed by gold or silver has a limited life span and it was at the end of its life. Using covid gave governments the way out. To create debt.
they are creating massive debt that people won't be able to get out off, then they will become dependent on the state, once the state as that over your, you won't have a choice about anything. You will do as they say, included reducing you life span in various ways, or you won't be given food. This is a massive "pump and dump".
 

sixthswan

Don't Welch
I get the debt bit. We are already dependent on the state. People just don't realise it.

Starting to lose me a bit over the reduction of life span and withdrawing food...
 

Richardvanles

Season Ticket Holder
Those are the extremes but not out of the realms of possibility. It doesn't take long to turn normal rational folk into animals just switching to survival skills. The Nazi's reckoned it took 3 days.
2 years ago would you ever expect your government would tell you who you could have or not have in your house? Tell you who you could see or not see in private. (But could work with them no problem)
We've got folk on here who not only lap it up they want further restrictions on those that don't agree with being injected with a trial drug because they irrationally believe that it will affect them somehow. Although I take the piss out of them in all seriousness they can't be completely stupid. They've lived to the age they have without sticking their nob in the toaster and electrocuting themselves or checking which wires live by biting it. But they've been turned into animals abandoning any social skills they've learnt from childhood due to government and MSM fear. To suggest governments won't go further and ration food for for example, the unvaccinated or these vaccines go horrible wrong further down the line (or if you believe the conspiracy wonderfully right for the establishment) those folk (like foxgolfer) will accept whatever it is as long as it's someone else that's coping it.
I don't know, you don't know. But what I do know is governments are doing what the fuck they like and getting away with it. They lie and cheat and no one challenges them, maybe that's the start of the acid test.
Not sure of your age SS but 30 years ago there wouldn't be a brick left on the Houses of Parliament and everyone of those cunts (on both sides) would be swinging from lampposts along the Thames after blatantly creating the amount of debt for are kids and grandkids and giving it to their buddies.
It wouldn't have happened.
So what their end game is is anyone's guess and I wouldn't rule anything out when there are foxgolfers everywhere supporting this shite.
 

Adumass

Bentleys Roofer
the argument starts with "fiat currency was dead / dying". i'm not saying you're wrong, but what is your basis for that starting point?
 

Richardvanles

Season Ticket Holder
the argument starts with "fiat currency was dead / dying". i'm not saying you're wrong, but what is your basis for that starting point?
Fiat currency needs inflation to create debt. I don't believe anyone creates wealth, just debt for the many and wealth for the few. America were in the shit. No one was borrowing money to create money to the point where they were offering negative interest loans. Paying folk to take out a loan (you obviously know how the banking system works so you'll understand why it was done) to amass wealth for the few debt needs to be created. Because there's no gold standard fiat currency is actually worthless it's just paper with nothing backing it (maybe 20% backed) but that's questionable because are they backing it with more fiat currency or gold/ silver.
It's smoke and mirrors.
Federal reserve...
Not federal and no one knows what reserves it has because it's not audited as it's a private bank for example.
 

sixthswan

Don't Welch
Those are the extremes but not out of the realms of possibility. It doesn't take long to turn normal rational folk into animals just switching to survival skills. The Nazi's reckoned it took 3 days.
2 years ago would you ever expect your government would tell you who you could have or not have in your house? Tell you who you could see or not see in private. (But could work with them no problem)
We've got folk on here who not only lap it up they want further restrictions on those that don't agree with being injected with a trial drug because they irrationally believe that it will affect them somehow. Although I take the piss out of them in all seriousness they can't be completely stupid. They've lived to the age they have without sticking their nob in the toaster and electrocuting themselves or checking which wires live by biting it. But they've been turned into animals abandoning any social skills they've learnt from childhood due to government and MSM fear. To suggest governments won't go further and ration food for for example, the unvaccinated or these vaccines go horrible wrong further down the line (or if you believe the conspiracy wonderfully right for the establishment) those folk (like foxgolfer) will accept whatever it is as long as it's someone else that's coping it.
I don't know, you don't know. But what I do know is governments are doing what the fuck they like and getting away with it. They lie and cheat and no one challenges them, maybe that's the start of the acid test.
Not sure of your age SS but 30 years ago there wouldn't be a brick left on the Houses of Parliament and everyone of those cunts (on both sides) would be swinging from lampposts along the Thames after blatantly creating the amount of debt for are kids and grandkids and giving it to their buddies.
It wouldn't have happened.
So what their end game is is anyone's guess and I wouldn't rule anything out when there are foxgolfers everywhere supporting this shite.

I'm 52 years old.

I honestly think you live in too much fear and paranoia.

I've not followed the rules on who I have in my house, or who I see. Why the fuck would I?

Nor am I a fan of the Covid vaccines.

You're completely wrong about the 30 years ago thing. For generations the people of Britain have allowed the government to fuck 'em good and proper. Even at local level, the people allowed local government to destroy whole communities and rip the heart out of our cities. Without barely a whimper...

Your view of the past is too rosy and the future too dark. For the people, the present has always been bleak. Not in horrible, nasty ways. Just in low level serfdom to the elite and the establishment.

Those who wish to seek libertarianism and small government and true personal freedom; are those most likely to vote for tyrants, snake oil salesmen and disaster capitalists.

Which is far, far, far worse than worrying about a disease and wanting to keep others safe.
 

Richardvanles

Season Ticket Holder
I'm 52 years old.

I honestly think you live in too much fear and paranoia.

I've not followed the rules on who I have in my house, or who I see. Why the fuck would I?

Nor am I a fan of the Covid vaccines.

You're completely wrong about the 30 years ago thing. For generations the people of Britain have allowed the government to fuck 'em good and proper. Even at local level, the people allowed local government to destroy whole communities and rip the heart out of our cities. Without barely a whimper...

Your view of the past is too rosy and the future too dark. For the people, the present has always been bleak. Not in horrible, nasty ways. Just in low level serfdom to the elite and the establishment.

Those who wish to seek libertarianism and small government and true personal freedom; are those most likely to vote for tyrants, snake oil salesmen and disaster capitalists.

Which is far, far, far worse than worrying about a disease and wanting to keep others safe.
Just a pup then. Shooting tatty water when Thatcher was in her prime.
Poll tax riots anyone?
 
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