Public Sector Pay Freeze

Irrelevant BBB.
You can't accuse someone of something they've never done.
You've asked what I think they would have done.
Maybe shield the most vulnerable in society rather than send them back to nursing homes to die (check the old site I said this before it because news as my wife was having to attend every night and watched the horror unfold before her)
Maybe be selective in isolating the most vulnerable in the working environment while the rest of us got on with it.
Maybe not spend millions on building special covid hospitals that were white elephants.
Maybe not given contracts to their donors for PPE and track and trace that cost the tax payer millions and diverted those funds elsewhere when the contractors came up massively short of expectations because they never had the expertise to carry out those contracts in the first place.
Maybe not contradict themselves constantly through all this so people didn't have a clue what they could and couldn't do
Maybe not make the rules then break their own rules and use pathetic excuses to justify their actions so folk who hadn't bought into the whole covid stuff had justification to say fuck you Boris and Co.
Maybe not go around shaking hands with covid patients and tell everyone they've got nothing to worry about before hiding away (maybe in a fucking fridge) and telling everyone I've got it.
I dunno, there's just a few things maybe the Labour Party wouldn't have done. But who knows.
 
Fair enough. Having said that, whilst I agree they’ve been shite in their response if you compare with other nations as evidence, more tha half the western world has followed a similar lockdown strategy.

And in the Far East some measures have been far more draconian and worked a treat.

Either way the consequences for the general population are a form of austerity, there is nothing anyone can do about it and whatever path the stories had taken there would have still been a massive economic fallout.

Some of their chums making money out of it is just an unsavoury sideshow.
 
Billsballbag said:
Fair enough. Having said that, whilst I agree they’ve been shite in their response if you compare with other nations as evidence, more tha half the western world has followed a similar lockdown strategy.

And in the Far East some measures have been far more draconian and worked a treat.

Either way the consequences for the general population are a form of austerity, there is nothing anyone can do about it and whatever path the stories had taken there would have still been a massive economic fallout.

Some of their chums making money out of it is just an unsavoury sideshow.
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It's not just an unsavoury side show though is it. The likes of you and me will be paying for it for a long time. Folk who work hard in the lowest sectors will be paying for it. It's costing those who can least afford it a lot of hardship and the ones who don't need the money are making millions off it. Surely you can see how wrong that is?
I agree, whoever was in charge was going to have a tough job. Anyone who says/ thinks different are deluding themselves but this lot have not only let down the population they're meant to look after they've done it in such a cynical way to continue to ensure their donors are making millions off the back of this is nothing short of a national disgrace. I'm hearing now it's to the tune of 18 billion.
 
I agree to a point, but if they had tendered the contracts would it make more than a slight difference to the overall debt pile? No.
 
Billsballbag said:
I agree to a point, but if they had tendered the contracts would it make more than a slight difference to the overall debt pile? No.
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Of course it would. It's well documented that certain companies who had the expertise offered to make and supply at cost. They heard nothing back.
Certainly PPE which was useless had to be replaced so the costs were double bubble footed by the tax payer as there were no costing clauses put into the contracts surprise surprise.
 
Billsballbag said:
Well let’s see when all the updated data is out on the economy. My view is that the sums are likely to be tiny.
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Going back to your original question regarding herd immunity.
The lock down the sequel. Data has shown that the largest transmissions are caused by education facilities. But they're told to carry on. Let's be honest, all they've done is stop folk going to the pub and meeting up in their own home.
Herd immunity for the kids to go home and pass it on to their parents is herd immunity in reality.
Even now their thinking don't make sense.
 
I can only go by my example with my kids. We're in a relatively high infection area. They're both at the local primary school and since being allowed back there's only been one issue with one year group.

Students congregating at Uni from different parts of the country and copping off obviously different. But it appears that primary school kids don't spread it or don't get it.
 
Bills pointed out private companies are going down so the money to pay the bloated civil service is drying up, so there are two options one give them a rise an make a few 100,000 redundant or freeze their pay and keep an many as possible in jobs.
Printing more money is a mugs game so it's an easy choice more cash less jobs or the same money and you keep your job.
 
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