So Maxwell found guilty then.

Swerving back to the OP.

Am I right to think Prince Andrews legal strategy is label himself a "potential defendant".

It's a bold move....doesn't really scream "not guilty" does it.
Same as the angle of, 'she hasn't lived in the us for enough time over the last few years, please dismiss the case.'
 
Is the "potential defendant" angle a result of the agreement signed by Virginia Giuffre , with Epstein in 2009?

Complete bollocks that isn't it.

The suit she filed against Epstein that year was in Florida. Andrew isn't subject to jurisdiction in Florida and the claims was were Federal offences, which he would never be a part of. He could NEVER have been called as a potential defendant, in a claim which he wasn't named in and could never be brought to court for.

Alan Dershowitz used the defence of this agreement, but he is a US citizen and therefore subject to jurisdiction in Florida.

Also do the terms of the agreement still apply after the death of Epstein?

Now that Maxwell has been found to be a nonce; Giuffre could also raise the same case against Andrew but via a different route (while Maxwell is alive). Procured by Maxwell for underage prostitution.

If the Civil case is dropped on this pathetic technicality, I doubt this will be the end of the matter.
 
George Ferris, not sure if you've had time to read my response to you directly or the idiot above as destroyed the continuity as these idiots do. I would be happy to talk about your opinion as I've said above.

Try and ignore him if possible.
Bnet I am in Australia visiting family at the moment so the timelines are strange. I think you slightly misunderstood the point I was trying to make which is I have no time whatsoever for any of them, Trump, Biden Johnson,Merkel, Prince Andrew, the list is never ending they are all cunts and if I could list all the reasons we could be here till doomsday. One thing I will say all the people who associated with the Epstein crew, and Trump was very friendly with them should be held to account but unless something out of the ordinary happens we will never know. These people have the temerity to make laws that they enforce on us but feel free to break them with impunity . I read most of your posts and find some of them interesting and I take some time to read up on some of the subjects and after that I make an informed decision. It’s good to have a mixture of opinions and debate whether or not you think it is truth or fiction is a matter for the individual. I firmly believed when I was younger that we needed and would have a revolution before the 20th century was done, but that will never happen in this country.
 
Bnet I am in Australia visiting family at the moment so the timelines are strange. I think you slightly misunderstood the point I was trying to make which is I have no time whatsoever for any of them, Trump, Biden Johnson,Merkel, Prince Andrew, the list is never ending they are all cunts and if I could list all the reasons we could be here till doomsday. One thing I will say all the people who associated with the Epstein crew, and Trump was very friendly with them should be held to account but unless something out of the ordinary happens we will never know. These people have the temerity to make laws that they enforce on us but feel free to break them with impunity . I read most of your posts and find some of them interesting and I take some time to read up on some of the subjects and after that I make an informed decision. It’s good to have a mixture of opinions and debate whether or not you think it is truth or fiction is a matter for the individual. I firmly believed when I was younger that we needed and would have a revolution before the 20th century was done, but that will never happen in this country.
l totally agree with you on these so called "elites". My view though is that Trump is being thrown in the mix but possibly unfairly. There is a whole industry in place to destroy everything about Trump. Given that, if they really had dirt on him it would be magnified a thousand fold and massive lies attached as well. Just like the 2 attempted impeachments which were both complete fabrications. On this basis l cut him some flak. He may part of controlled opposition, l feel hes not but we're dealing with extremely clever people so who knows. Its time that this slavery system that we've lived in for thousands of years is turned over, and thats what l believe is actually happening right now. I have lots of reasons to believe this, doesn't mean it will be successful, but it needs to be otherwise we are finished.

People who can't see the massive daily lies, and the reason behind them are either completely stupid or frightened of facing up to the truth. Everyone who backs the tyrannical governments are the enemy of the rest of us, this included BLM, ANTIFA, CIA,MSM, MI5/6 MOSSAD etc etc plus the defenders of these criminal entities.

Theres a fella who does linguistically analytics who always seems to be on the ball, and his predictions are that we are going to lose millions upon millions of lives to the jab, but he reckons the corner as been turned on this tyranny, though, it will take tens of years for humanity to rebuild afterwards. Hope hes correct !
 
l totally agree with you on these so called "elites". My view though is that Trump is being thrown in the mix but possibly unfairly. There is a whole industry in place to destroy everything about Trump. Given that, if they really had dirt on him it would be magnified a thousand fold and massive lies attached as well. Just like the 2 attempted impeachments which were both complete fabrications. On this basis l cut him some flak. He may part of controlled opposition, l feel hes not but we're dealing with extremely clever people so who knows. Its time that this slavery system that we've lived in for thousands of years is turned over, and thats what l believe is actually happening right now. I have lots of reasons to believe this, doesn't mean it will be successful, but it needs to be otherwise we are finished.

People who can't see the massive daily lies, and the reason behind them are either completely stupid or frightened of facing up to the truth. Everyone who backs the tyrannical governments are the enemy of the rest of us, this included BLM, ANTIFA, CIA,MSM, MI5/6 MOSSAD etc etc plus the defenders of these criminal entities.

Theres a fella who does linguistically analytics who always seems to be on the ball, and his predictions are that we are going to lose millions upon millions of lives to the jab, but he reckons the corner as been turned on this tyranny, though, it will take tens of years for humanity to rebuild afterwards. Hope hes correct !
But to look at it logically, forgetting party lines etc etc. Surely the only sane conclusion about ALL those names mentioned by George above is considering how Epstein did all he did pretty much in the open then if not directly involved they must know enough to know where the bodies are buried. Now if that is the case they should either singing like Elvis or doing their best to disassociate from him. It’s seems to me it’s the latter unfortunately.
 
Andrew's guest list for Beatrice's 18th birthday at Windsor Castle.

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Andrew's guest list for Beatrice's 18th birthday at Windsor Castle.

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Seen that a number of times recently. Not sure if the validity of it as it looks like a fancy dress party rather then a birthday party. Unless of course her 18th birthday party was fancy dress.
 
Billed as a Royal Costume Party.
I guess Andrew only invited Maxwell. As she is his best buddy.
The other two must have gate-crashed, the coming of age party.
 
But to look at it logically, forgetting party lines etc etc. Surely the only sane conclusion about ALL those names mentioned by George above is considering how Epstein did all he did pretty much in the open then if not directly involved they must know enough to know where the bodies are buried. Now if that is the case they should either singing like Elvis or doing their best to disassociate from him. It’s seems to me it’s the latter unfortunately.
l get your point, and I'm not defending him, just looking at possibilities. Was he in a position to expose them ? is this a long game thoughtfully planned out to take these "elites" down. Is it death by a thousand cuts to them evil bastards ? We don't know, but we do know who the majority of them are, and people like Trump, Flynn etc need an open mind keeping on. The amount they've spent on trying to destroy Trump gives me a lot of hope that hes a better option than them.

We hear all the chatter, like the Queens dead of which l think its a very strong possibility. Is it a lie, to discredit certain groups or is it suppressed by these groups. We just have to go with what we see, what we hear and gut feeling along with as much background info that we can gather.

Incidentally some of these rumours say Elvis is alive, living in Scotland riding Nessie most weekends.
 
From the car-crash interview:

EM: So in 2006 in May an arrest warrant was issued for Epstein for sexual assault of a minor.
PA: Yes.
EM: In July he was invited to Windsor Castle to your daughter, Princess Beatrice's 18th birthday, why would you do that?
PA: Because I was asking Ghislaine. But even so, at the time I don't think I… certainly I wasn't aware when the invitation was issued what was going on in the United States and I wasn't aware until the media picked up on it because he never said anything about it.
 
l get your point, and I'm not defending him, just looking at possibilities. Was he in a position to expose them ? is this a long game thoughtfully planned out to take these "elites" down. Is it death by a thousand cuts to them evil bastards ? We don't know, but we do know who the majority of them are, and people like Trump, Flynn etc need an open mind keeping on. The amount they've spent on trying to destroy Trump gives me a lot of hope that hes a better option than them.

We hear all the chatter, like the Queens dead of which l think its a very strong possibility. Is it a lie, to discredit certain groups or is it suppressed by these groups. We just have to go with what we see, what we hear and gut feeling along with as much background info that we can gather.

Incidentally some of these rumours say Elvis is alive, living in Scotland riding Nessie most weekends.
Heard the Queen one. Died 2nd Jan.
 
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