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This ere rail strike then.

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Roofer
Works OK at 30MPH on the docklands, I'm not sure about 125MPH through Nuneaton

I suppose R2 D2 wouldn't want to be in the RMT though
 
You mean that was a return on their investment - no different to getting interest on a bank deposit account
You see nothing wrong with large pay outs to shareholders, i.e. profits taken out of the business while trying to reduce the workers pay and conditions, the workers who have contributed to those profits. If so then fair enough.
 

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Roofer
Where did I say I thought this was OK?

But idealism is all well and good but the facts remain the same, the companies are losing 20% of their work, and 30% of the most lucrative work, sitting by and pretending it's not happening is suicide

The dividends are based on the accounts to December 2020. Why would people invest in companies if there is no return? The profits were made 2 years ago when times were better.

I don't know the details of the deal being offered to their workers but I doubt they're trying to reduce their pay. Perhaps you could tell me what the conditions are that they're are so important to the work force
 

sixthswan

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You see nothing wrong with large pay outs to shareholders, i.e. profits taken out of the business while trying to reduce the workers pay and conditions, the workers who have contributed to those profits. If so then fair enough.

Also some people oppose Nationalisation of our railways, but are happy to see other nations making profit from our transport network.
Taking back control.
 

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The problem was when we had good old British Railways they transported less than half of the pre pandemic passengers, were a national joke and still needed massive subsidies. What's the answer?

Most private companies couldn't opperate on the small margins being made by the franchise holders so only these types of arrangements can work, things are getting worse so it maybe some of these franchises can't continue in their present form anyway
 
Where did I say I thought this was OK?

But idealism is all well and good but the facts remain the same, the companies are losing 20% of their work, and 30% of the most lucrative work, sitting by and pretending it's not happening is suicide

The dividends are based on the accounts to December 2020. Why would people invest in companies if there is no return? The profits were made 2 years ago when times were better.

I don't know the details of the deal being offered to their workers but I doubt they're trying to reduce their pay. Perhaps you could tell me what the conditions are that they're are so important to the work force
The deal that I’ve seen and led to believe is the one on the table is, in a word, shit. It really is, if it is the deal and not someone picking the bad bones out of it to display.
 

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Also some people oppose Nationalisation of our railways, but are happy to see other nations making profit from our transport network.
Taking back control.
You may have hit on something with the Rail Track dispute. In the good old days of BR when no one gave a fuck and money grew on trees a lot of daft restrictive practices were put into place by lazy managers and awkward unions. These were carried forward and weren't that big a problem when there was money sloshing about, now times are tight the shit has hit the fan and we're in this mess. Remember Rail Track is a Nationalised Company
 

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Roofer
Other countries can run efficient rail services.
We are pretty unique as a nation, to be unable to do that.
No they can't

One of the one's that is always held up as a shining example is Swissrail. They opperate less trains in 24 hours than leave London Waterloos between 4pm and 6pm

Don't believe all the crap in the press
 

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Roofer
Well you've done very well to find this. It must be correct because the RMT says it is

Can you find the actual proposals from Network Rail please
 
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