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jackieguaccamo

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As someone who has been a lifelong old school liberal and left of centre, it’s pretty obvious that Keir Starmer and the Labour government are not these things. Instead, they are authoritarian, hypocritical and using sanctimonious fake virtue to try and mask some pretty appalling optics even within their first 3 months of being in government.

The winter fuel allowance is a huge symbolism of this. No previous Labour government would have ever have considered punishing pensioners like this. So while Starmer repeatedly wangs on about “fixing the foundations” of the economy and a £22bn black hole (which he knew about before the election - as stated by him even in May 2024), how is it economically fair and indeed morally viable to cut £1.6bn by abolishing the winter fuel allowance for millions of pensions yet spaff £11.6bn on overseas climate change or give over £220m to consultants at KPMG to train civil servants?

But it’s not just the winter fuel allowance. This Labour government has already shown itself to be completely devoid of vision and empathy towards the mood of the British people. The country is rotting (largely due to the 14 years of appalling neglect and nefarious policies from the Tory government). The new Labour government had a chance to create a national conversation with the people and really listen and act accordingly to their many valid concerns. Tragically, they didn’t. Instead, they have indulged in the politics of punishment, austerity and misery and communicated by a po-faced Prime Minister who comes across as a modern day equivalent to the pompous, authoritarian Malvolio from Shakespeare’s Twelfth Night.

The Labour government is already drowning in backdated hypocrisy of broken promises and bare-faced duplicity combined with an angry divide and rule self-righteousness that only loses friends and alienates voters. And that’s why they are plummeting in the approval polls.

Keir Starmer is hammering millions of pensioners with the removal of the winter fuel allowance while he is trousering north of £750,000 in donations and £100,000 in freebies. It’s disgusting and deeply hypocritical.

He promised to clean up the mess in politics and be a Prime Minister with integrity, yet he’s claiming grotesque amounts of freebies, and in that dreadful po-faced manner of his, savagely cutting the winter fuel allowance from millions of pensioners whilst repeatedly sanctimoniously lecturing to the public like we are all naughty schoolchildren.

He’s now disliked to the point that he’s become a national laughing stock.

But hypocritical pomposity on this scale deserves nothing but ridicule. Labour has tragically abandoned its “for the working people” traditions. “The Labour Party” in name has become an oxymoron. It is no longer committed to its original mission of improving living conditions and the opportunities of working people in Britain, standing against greedy corporations and the military-industrial complex, whilst protecting freedom of speech. Instead, it is the exact opposite - it’s in thrall to greedy corporatism. The over inflated payments to net zero based (largely overseas) corporations is a prime example of this.

To bookend where I began this post, as I often say, I haven’t left the left, but sadly this Labour government have left me. They aren’t anywhere near the values of the liberal left that used to serve Labour and their core voters well.John Smith (former Labour Party Leader) once said, “People in Britain today are angry: not just disappointed, not just disillusioned, but angry. They are angry at the state of Britain; angry at the total absence of leadership; angry at the absence of vision; angry at the hypocrisy and double standards; and they are angry at the incessant incompetence of a Government they no longer respect and increasingly despise.”

And tragically, his words of wisdom (aimed back then against the Tory government) could equally apply to Keir Starmer’s government of today.
 
As someone who has been a lifelong old school liberal and left of centre, it’s pretty obvious that Keir Starmer and the Labour government are not these things. Instead, they are authoritarian, hypocritical and using sanctimonious fake virtue to try and mask some pretty appalling optics even within their first 3 months of being in government.

The winter fuel allowance is a huge symbolism of this. No previous Labour government would have ever have considered punishing pensioners like this. So while Starmer repeatedly wangs on about “fixing the foundations” of the economy and a £22bn black hole (which he knew about before the election - as stated by him even in May 2024), how is it economically fair and indeed morally viable to cut £1.6bn by abolishing the winter fuel allowance for millions of pensions yet spaff £11.6bn on overseas climate change or give over £220m to consultants at KPMG to train civil servants?

But it’s not just the winter fuel allowance. This Labour government has already shown itself to be completely devoid of vision and empathy towards the mood of the British people. The country is rotting (largely due to the 14 years of appalling neglect and nefarious policies from the Tory government). The new Labour government had a chance to create a national conversation with the people and really listen and act accordingly to their many valid concerns. Tragically, they didn’t. Instead, they have indulged in the politics of punishment, austerity and misery and communicated by a po-faced Prime Minister who comes across as a modern day equivalent to the pompous, authoritarian Malvolio from Shakespeare’s Twelfth Night.

The Labour government is already drowning in backdated hypocrisy of broken promises and bare-faced duplicity combined with an angry divide and rule self-righteousness that only loses friends and alienates voters. And that’s why they are plummeting in the approval polls.

Keir Starmer is hammering millions of pensioners with the removal of the winter fuel allowance while he is trousering north of £750,000 in donations and £100,000 in freebies. It’s disgusting and deeply hypocritical.

He promised to clean up the mess in politics and be a Prime Minister with integrity, yet he’s claiming grotesque amounts of freebies, and in that dreadful po-faced manner of his, savagely cutting the winter fuel allowance from millions of pensioners whilst repeatedly sanctimoniously lecturing to the public like we are all naughty schoolchildren.

He’s now disliked to the point that he’s become a national laughing stock.

But hypocritical pomposity on this scale deserves nothing but ridicule. Labour has tragically abandoned its “for the working people” traditions. “The Labour Party” in name has become an oxymoron. It is no longer committed to its original mission of improving living conditions and the opportunities of working people in Britain, standing against greedy corporations and the military-industrial complex, whilst protecting freedom of speech. Instead, it is the exact opposite - it’s in thrall to greedy corporatism. The over inflated payments to net zero based (largely overseas) corporations is a prime example of this.

To bookend where I began this post, as I often say, I haven’t left the left, but sadly this Labour government have left me. They aren’t anywhere near the values of the liberal left that used to serve Labour and their core voters well.John Smith (former Labour Party Leader) once said, “People in Britain today are angry: not just disappointed, not just disillusioned, but angry. They are angry at the state of Britain; angry at the total absence of leadership; angry at the absence of vision; angry at the hypocrisy and double standards; and they are angry at the incessant incompetence of a Government they no longer respect and increasingly despise.”

And tragically, his words of wisdom (aimed back then against the Tory government) could equally apply to Keir Starmer’s government of today.
Sums up quite a lot of it perfectly. Nice Malvolio dig.
 
Well at least he talked that way. We'll never know for sure. Hard to imagine him doing a Blair.
Where have all the vocal Labour Roofers gone?
Ummm, getting on with our lives? Is that the answer? I bet it is. We’re not cutting and pasting Russian Bot Farm posts all over the board like the board’s Quisling. Is that the answer?
 
I would describe myself as politically homeless. However, reading some threads on here is pushing me towards Labour.

They must be doing something right if they're angering so many idiots.
 
Well at least he talked that way. We'll never know for sure. Hard to imagine him doing a Blair.
Where have all the vocal Labour Roofers gone?
Sorry, what's an acceptable timeframe for a reply?

John Smith was the real deal, a proper Labour leader..
Corbyn. Villified by RW media, but in a different way.

There are some valid points. MPs accept gifts, some declare them, some try not to.

The current version of Labour are a long way from where they were. They moved towards the right to gain a larger vote. In the absence of any viable alternative they won the election. The previous shower couldn't be trusted to continue.

Let's see how the next 5 years go.
 
Give us at least 3/5 years before judgement.
Of course you're right to give them time.
I'm a little prejudiced, I suppose.
We got exactly what I expected from the Tories.
And I expected no more, no less, from what we're getting from Labour.

Still, up and down like JackInTheBoxes if BJ so much as broke a pencil. Fecked off now ain't they? :cool:
 
Would be great if they could channel that energy into actually making a difference to peoples lives, rather than just posting post after post...
 
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