Not sure if anyone has posted this before but this is a great podast featuring Simon Inglis and John Holmes. This place gets a mention:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/4l4jMImSbdOibCOtRwARoM?si=2bce94b563d940e3&nd=1
https://open.spotify.com/episode/4l4jMImSbdOibCOtRwARoM?si=2bce94b563d940e3&nd=1