From memories of when i was young on a building site ,when the conversation turned to boxing (which was quite often )the older ones always aknowledged Larry Gains as the best local boxer ,and that was against some pretty fierce opposition , in the NWL area round the very early 19,oos there were severaL coloured families such as the Millers who were well known boxers , I have told Mac this before ,but when i followed Leicester away in the early sixties ,we would go for for a drink either before or after the game and end up talking to the older locals who always wanted to talk about Tiger Ison. ,there is a complete record of professional boxers and thier records on here somewhere Mac.