Pub opinion please

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HughJanus

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Right you fukkers, I’d like your comments please
After a lot of research I’ve found a pub that does a really good Sunday lunch, the beer is piss but the wine list is superb and it’s all available by the glass so it suits me
Downstairs it’s a pub that serves food, upstairs it’s a restaurant. Now the guy that owns it lets people bring their pooches in. Now let me say that I’m not an animal lover but I understand that lots of weirdos are. Anyway it seems like a quintessential British thing to do to bring a quadruped into a boozer and most weeks I share my lunch (with the attached person’s permission) with at least one of these beasties. But I have heard one or two dissenting voices recently so what do you bunch of grumpy old farts think?
Also young people have the temerity to bring with them some odd little things, I believe they’re called children. Anyway to my mind Sunday lunch time is family time so the various noises emanating from these tiny humans seems equally acceptable to the odd bark from the canines. Again I have heard a few tut tuts.
So geezers what do you all think?
 
I think with dogs, it's the owners that are the problem. And with kids, it's the parents that are usually the problem.
 
Ban kids from pubs.
In the village where I grew up there were two pubs & two clubs. The pubs were over 18 only & the clubs were family friendly. Everybody's happy.
 
I would imagine that it's a very divisive topic.
There are two boozers that I use quite regularly, and there is quite a contrast between them on the attitude towards both dogs and children.
The gaffer of one of those pubs does a tremendous amount for children's entertainment and it's a very popular venue for families and young kids. At 9pm though there is a strict ' no children ' policy. It's non negotiable and everyone knows that if they have children then it's time to leave. Imo that's fair enough.
The other pub is much more of a gastro pub. Children and dogs are welcome and as far as I know there is no time limit on them leaving.
Personally I feel that they should be an adult sanctuary. Kids easily get bored and tired later on. They are constantly being exposed to foul language. I often look at groups of families that are out for a good piss up and they show complete disregard for their children's needs especially whilst they are steadily getting pissed. Quite often I am in this pub with my small family group and elderly mother, and it's often blighted with children running around and playing games like hide and seek.
The gaffer or staff hardly ever interfere with the disruptive behaviour. They seemed to be frightened of challenging parents about their children. When people are paying hard earned money for a meal they don't want to be surrounded by over excitable and unchallenged children. On several occasions I have witnessed staff bringing out plates of food only for them to be nearly knocked off their feet by them. They are belting around whilst their parents are totally oblivious to the children's behaviour. Selfish imo.
Regarding dogs, I would only ever allow guide dogs in for people that need them.
Food and dogs......not for me. Just seems like an unhygienic combination. Only last week a young chap brought his dog in and it was frequently barking loudly. It doesn't make for a relaxing night. Like it was said in a previous post, I don't blame the kids or dogs, it's the ignorance of people showing complete disregard for the others that just want to have a good night out.
 
When I was a kid I can't recall ever just being allowed to go in a pub. I remember my dad would always go in to ask the gaffer whilst we stayed in the car. Usually you was allowed in under the compliance of being ' seen but not heard '
Basically it was a case of know your place.
 
Nearest I got to the inside of a pub as a kid was the off sales, or the garden. My local has got a good size dog friendly bar area with bowls and treats. If I fancy a pint after a good walk with the dog, that’s where I’ll sit. If I want to go for Sunday lunch, I wouldn’t take the dog, that’s just weird.
 
Surely someone's dog is no closer to your plate of food than the floor is? Probably a lot further away. The floor is just as unhygenic. And in many pubs I can think of, the kitchen is probably even more so!
 
I was specifically referring to Sunday lunch time . I agree there needs to be a curfew on kids, this pub has an upstairs dog free area
 
Brauny said:
I would imagine that it's a very divisive topic.
There are two boozers that I use quite regularly, and there is quite a contrast between them on the attitude towards both dogs and children.
The gaffer of one of those pubs does a tremendous amount for children's entertainment and it's a very popular venue for families and young kids. At 9pm though there is a strict ' no children ' policy. It's non negotiable and everyone knows that if they have children then it's time to leave. Imo that's fair enough.
The other pub is much more of a gastro pub. Children and dogs are welcome and as far as I know there is no time limit on them leaving.
Personally I feel that they should be an adult sanctuary. Kids easily get bored and tired later on. They are constantly being exposed to foul language. I often look at groups of families that are out for a good piss up and they show complete disregard for their children's needs especially whilst they are steadily getting pissed. Quite often I am in this pub with my small family group and elderly mother, and it's often blighted with children running around and playing games like hide and seek.
The gaffer or staff hardly ever interfere with the disruptive behaviour. They seemed to be frightened of challenging parents about their children. When people are paying hard earned money for a meal they don't want to be surrounded by over excitable and unchallenged children. On several occasions I have witnessed staff bringing out plates of food only for them to be nearly knocked off their feet by them. They are belting around whilst their parents are totally oblivious to the children's behaviour. Selfish imo.
Regarding dogs, I would only ever allow guide dogs in for people that need them.
Food and dogs......not for me. Just seems like an unhygienic combination. Only last week a young chap brought his dog in and it was frequently barking loudly. It doesn't make for a relaxing night. Like it was said in a previous post, I don't blame the kids or dogs, it's the ignorance of people showing complete disregard for the others that just want to have a good night out.
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Having a dog and children, I think the first of your two examples is the best.

Things have moved on from off-sales and leaving the kids in the car while you have a drink. Pubs have recognised profit is in food sales and have changed to cater for families, more food, more profit. I do agree most problems stem from owners/parents lack of control. Too many selfish, entitled people around.
 
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As far as I am aware the biggest profit margins are on soft drinks hence the attraction of allowing children.
You are right things have moved on, but imo I would struggle to accept it's been for the better.
Like in my example of a pub I go in, maybe a cut off time is the best compromise?
 
Brauny said:
As far as I am aware the biggest profit margins are on soft drinks hence the attraction of allowing children.
You are right things have moved on, but imo I would struggle to accept it's been for the better.
Like in my example of a pub I go in, maybe a cut off time is the best compromise?
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But margins in pubs have always been better on pop and pool tables. Loads of grumpy old men moaning about a penny on a pint and stinking of Woodbines have long gone
 
HughJanus said:
But margins in pubs have always been better on pop and pool tables. Loads of grumpy old men moaning about a penny on a pint and stinking of Woodbines have long gone
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But your post is mainly about children and dogs and people's opinions ?
You still have grumpy old men moaning, but they are moaning about 20p on a pint and increases on a regular basis . The difference surely between pubs of today and yesteryear is they are much more child and dog friendly, which is not to everyone's satisfaction. Certainly not mine anyway.
 
Don't get your context ??

I presume you mean it's fine on a Sunday lunchtime because that's ' family ' time and your beef 😁is with the dissenters at Sunday lunch ?

If so what's the opinion about non ' family ' time?
 
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HughJanus said:
But margins in pubs have always been better on pop and pool tables. Loads of grumpy old men moaning about a penny on a pint and stinking of Woodbines have long gone
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Now it's loads of grumpy old men moaning about 20p on a pint & stinking of weed.
 
I work with dogs all day so never take them to the pub , that's my time.
My local says "dogs in bar area only" so never affects people sat down eating unless they've chosen to eat in such areas.

i have 2 young children and only take them to the pub if were having a sit down meal, they can play on the outside climbing frames but no running round in the pub - that's not cricket.

I go to the pub to relax, hide, unwind, think and talk rubbish to the bloke next to me so taking any of the 2 aforementioned species is to be avoided where possible.

Plus, if the kids are coming, and the dogs are coming...the Mrs will want to come!!!
 
“the beer is piss”…that would be my issue.
No excuse for a pub selling rubbish ale. End of!
 
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