Random thought...

jackieguaccamo

jackieguaccamo

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I were thinking about the state we're in as a group of beings, weak men create hard times and all that. And I was wondering when all this namby-pamby bollocks started. Not on my watch I thought, I just missed it along the way of women, marriage, mortgage and that stuff that life offers you.

But then I thought, hold on! Who said we should be the Gen X generation of self indulgent angst ridden teenagers listening to the Smiths, Joy Division and The Cure. Rather than setting light to stuff and shouting about stuff in an angry young man way. Was there ever the woe is me teenage thing in music before the eighties? I've not looked too deeply into it but before the 80's the sad teenager stuff was just based around love and teenage relationships weren't it?

So my current theory is that I solely blame Morrissey for everything that is going on at the moment, clubbook arguing that it's like really ok for mental patients to walk round with their cock and bollocks out because they are just being different, or blokes in dresses getting their cock out in a women's changing room is cool is because of us. In conclusion anyone under 65 and older than 50, it's our fucking fault!
 
jackieguaccamo said:
I were thinking about the state we're in as a group of beings, weak men create hard times and all that. And I was wondering when all this namby-pamby bollocks started. Not on my watch I thought, I just missed it along the way of women, marriage, mortgage and that stuff that life offers you.

But then I thought, hold on! Who said we should be the Gen X generation of self indulgent angst ridden teenagers listening to the Smiths, Joy Division and The Cure. Rather than setting light to stuff and shouting about stuff in an angry young man way. Was there ever the woe is me teenage thing in music before the eighties? I've not looked too deeply into it but before the 80's the sad teenager stuff was just based around love and teenage relationships weren't it?

So my current theory is that I solely blame Morrissey for everything that is going on at the moment, clubbook arguing that it's like really ok for mental patients to walk round with their cock and bollocks out because they are just being different, or blokes in dresses getting their cock out in a women's changing room is cool is because of us. In conclusion anyone under 65 and older than 50, it's our fucking fault!
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You could be on to something, but I’d go back a few more years from Morrissey. I always maintained as a bit of a lefty I done my bit. Anti Poll tax, spoke at rallies, represented none payers as a Mackenzie’s friend in court, Shop Steward, financially supported the Miners during the miners strike. Then handed the baton over to the likes of Bookclub and Hackney and took my eye off the ball. Turned around a few years later to see that they’ve fucked it up. The left have become the establishment stooges cucking themselves out to any and every cause where an underdog is portrayed by the establishment and media. They haven’t realised yet it’s not left or right but us verses the establishment. Sad to see that the old “right” have cottoned on to it and taken the place as the establishment challengers and pathetic to see that the “original punks” have turned into everything they supposedly opposed all them years ago. I blame punk rock and the punk rockers.
Rebels without a clue.
 
This is a good one.
You may be on to something. As a human, Moz has obviously changed and seems to get cancelled every 5 minutes, but if he is to blame, it's probably because he was so creative/good in sewing the seeds of some of this when he was younger.
I don't think you can blame punk, but you can certainly see that some punks became everything that they were supposedly against. (We all change.)
I remember my ex-girlfriend's mam in the 80s. Middle class, supposedly a socialist, but already woke as we would define it now. She wasn't into 80s or 70s music. Grew up in the 50s.
I blame the Ted's. 😀
 
When hasn't politics been a pendulum swing? It'll come back, the same as it always has. And if the repercussions are as ridiculous as the current attitude, I'd start to worry.
 
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jackieguaccamo said:
I were thinking about the state we're in as a group of beings, weak men create hard times and all that. And I was wondering when all this namby-pamby bollocks started. Not on my watch I thought, I just missed it along the way of women, marriage, mortgage and that stuff that life offers you.

But then I thought, hold on! Who said we should be the Gen X generation of self indulgent angst ridden teenagers listening to the Smiths, Joy Division and The Cure. Rather than setting light to stuff and shouting about stuff in an angry young man way. Was there ever the woe is me teenage thing in music before the eighties? I've not looked too deeply into it but before the 80's the sad teenager stuff was just based around love and teenage relationships weren't it?

So my current theory is that I solely blame Morrissey for everything that is going on at the moment, clubbook arguing that it's like really ok for mental patients to walk round with their cock and bollocks out because they are just being different, or blokes in dresses getting their cock out in a women's changing room is cool is because of us. In conclusion anyone under 65 and older than 50, it's our fucking fault!
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Every generation thinks that those that follow, are inferior to them.
Joy Division were earlier than The Smiths, so Morrissey can't be to "blame".
Also The Smiths songs are largely about sad teenager stuff, rather than being angst-ridden. Full of dark humour.
Morrissey is mostly taking the piss out of himself anyway and the guitars are the best thing about them. Not the lyrics.

Of course Generation X didn't only listen to The Smiths, Joy Division and The Cure anyway.

Some older "woe is me" songs, just off the top of my head.

Yesterday - The Beatles
Help! - The Beatles
Behind Blue Eyes - The Who

Sadly, blokes have got their cocks out in public for the whole of human existence and men have wore dresses before modern times.
 
Morrossey if a poof, so is the Cure and the Joy Division, they all making Boy George seem like he does not gobble wieners on the street corner
 
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