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SemperEadem

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How does UFS get more to join in either side and behind them?
 
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We sit the other side of the stairway in SK1 and join in but you need like minded fans, and some just dont want to sing and would rather use their clappers!
So dont know how you change that culture.
As for the singing section its better this season, the last two home games you have created some good noise.

I do think if you were able to relocate ( but cant imagine they would ever let you!) to the middle of the kop more fans would join in 👍🏻
 
You try your hardest lads and if it wasn’t for you the place would be a library
I am in SK2 and there are people sitting in there who might as well be at the theatre
They are always out 10 minutes before the finish
They problem is they are there every season and will continue to be there
The only issue I have with you lads is there are guys in Sk3/4 who start off a song
and you in SK1 go off on another
We need a block of around 2000 to make any difference to the noise levels you are about
1500 off
It would make more sense to join up with L1
Until the club gets the ground extended , takes the lack of atmosphere seriously , bins
the fan cams and Clappers then we ain’t going anywhere regarding atmosphere
I even hear the bloke on Leicester Fan TV stating he wants the Clappers back
what chance you got 😀
 
Whuru said:
You try your hardest lads and if it wasn’t for you the place would be a library
I am in SK2 and there are people sitting in there who might as well be at the theatre
They are always out 10 minutes before the finish
They problem is they are there every season and will continue to be there
The only issue I have with you lads is there are guys in Sk3/4 who start off a song
and you in SK1 go off on another
We need a block of around 2000 to make any difference to the noise levels you are about
1500 off
It would make more sense to join up with L1
Until the club gets the ground extended , takes the lack of atmosphere seriously , bins
the fan cams and Clappers then we ain’t going anywhere regarding atmosphere
I even hear the bloke on Leicester Fan TV stating he wants the Clappers back
what chance you got 😀
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Do L1 still sing, can't anything, right near the cameras as well
Whuru said:
You try your hardest lads and if it wasn’t for you the place would be a library
I am in SK2 and there are people sitting in there who might as well be at the theatre
They are always out 10 minutes before the finish
They problem is they are there every season and will continue to be there
The only issue I have with you lads is there are guys in Sk3/4 who start off a song
and you in SK1 go off on another
We need a block of around 2000 to make any difference to the noise levels you are about
1500 off
It would make more sense to join up with L1
Until the club gets the ground extended , takes the lack of atmosphere seriously , bins
the fan cams and Clappers then we ain’t going anywhere regarding atmosphere
I even hear the bloke on Leicester Fan TV stating he wants the Clappers back
what chance you got 😀
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Whuru said:
You try your hardest lads and if it wasn’t for you the place would be a library
I am in SK2 and there are people sitting in there who might as well be at the theatre
They are always out 10 minutes before the finish
They problem is they are there every season and will continue to be there
The only issue I have with you lads is there are guys in Sk3/4 who start off a song
and you in SK1 go off on another
We need a block of around 2000 to make any difference to the noise levels you are about
1500 off
It would make more sense to join up with L1
Until the club gets the ground extended , takes the lack of atmosphere seriously , bins
the fan cams and Clappers then we ain’t going anywhere regarding atmosphere
I even hear the bloke on Leicester Fan TV stating he wants the Clappers back
what chance you got 😀
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Do L1 still sing, can't hear anything in G2, near cameras but only hear away fans
 
Wigston_Fox said:
Do L1 still sing, can't anything, right near the cameras as well


Do L1 still sing, can't hear anything in G2, near cameras but only hear away fans
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Hardly. I'm in K1 next door. I commented on this in the 'Atmosphere' thread recently.
 
Unfortunately you would need a fair few to relocate their season tckts away from yourselves to allow people who actually care about making an atmosphere to get around you.
Myself & my 13 year old son are around a dozen or so seats to the left of you & we have plenty around ourselves who don’t sing a single note at any game.
We have a ridiculous amount of armchair fans who actually go to the games.
 
essingtonblue said:
Unfortunately you would need a fair few to relocate their season tckts away from yourselves to allow people who actually care about making an atmosphere to get around you.
Myself & my 13 year old son are around a dozen or so seats to the left of you & we have plenty around ourselves who don’t sing a single note at any game.
We have a ridiculous amount of armchair fans who actually go to the games.
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Or those that are in the singing section that stay firmly mouths closed to think hey im not enjoying this il relocate.
 
I sit in G2 so there is always plenty of ‘atmosphere’ but I often wonder what the rest of the ground hears from it.

I missed the Sunderland game but on tv at the end the camera panned to SK1 and it showed about 20 folk bouncing about and everyone else stood there clapping. It wasn’t a strong look.

Perhaps some of the songs aren’t catchy enough or so niche the majority haven’t got a clue what’s being sung.
 
I wish I could be more positive but you appear boxed in
In the short term very few different supporters will be located near you
than what are now
The demographics are against you I don’t see many clubs with an older
or family based fan set up
For example Leeds the other night seemed predominately male in the
18-35 bracket , compare that to our away fanbase
On a positive note the singing of WYS seems to be improving and although
a small step forward it is positive 😁
 
Someone above put about getting more central in the kop. That would definitely spread the singing across the kop. However it''ll involve relocating a lot of people so I can't see the club helping.
I'm SK4, generally the older type in there so it's fairly quiet.
It's pretty much up to all of us to join in an create an atmosphere.
 
I am in Row G of L1
The singing from above me is very poor.
From 35 mins onwards they are streaming out to get refreshments etc.
I do sometimes struggle to look as our play is so fast moving I may miss something!
 
Bittfox said:
Someone above put about getting more central in the kop. That would definitely spread the singing across the kop. However it''ll involve relocating a lot of people so I can't see the club helping.
I'm SK4, generally the older type in there so it's fairly quiet.
It's pretty much up to all of us to join in a create an atmosphere.
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They did that at Palace and it helped.

Our club just don’t want it.

I was sat next to the away dugout on Friday thanks to a mate and I heard Union FS quite a lot from there. Also a bit from L1. I was actually surprised there are a few in there who want to sing. More vocal too than I thought they would be maybe because the dugout is so close and comments can be heard.

I’ll come up with some ideas later. There isn’t much that can realistically be done.
 
SemperEadem said:
Always get an honest answer on here. Aware I'm in a echo chamber at times.

How does UFS get more to join in either side and behind them?
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Went in SK1 for the Sunderland game with my son and we loved the atmosphere and really got into it.

Our issue we don’t live locally, we are members and can only sit where we can afford to, sitting in SK1 was a one off but we loved and hopefully contributed to the noise.

Next game for us is Watford and we are at the opposite end of the ground and my eldest son is coming too, so we’re paying where we can afford to sit.
 
Coatsworth said:
Went in SK1 for the Sunderland game with my son and we loved the atmosphere and really got into it.

Our issue we don’t live locally, we are members and can only sit where we can afford to, sitting in SK1 was a one off but we loved and hopefully contributed to the noise.

Next game for us is Watford and we are at the opposite end of the ground and my eldest son is coming too, so we’re paying where we can afford to sit.
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Pretty much the same for me and my daughter, she likes trying different places to sit but enjoyed joining the singing in SK1. We're in M1 for the Watford game so it will be interesting to see how the sounds carries across to there.

I think the best was to improve the atmosphere is, as suggested above, spread it out across the middle behind the goal, but also move those in L1 who want to sing. Although I guess they enjoy being next to the away fans. In which case, fuck knows what the solution is.
 
What the club should do is make the top 15 rows of the whole kop safe standing - that would hopefully encourage those who want to just sit on their hands to move and enable UFS to move more central.
Any thoughts about moving to L1 or the North Stand should be ignored. Singers need to reclaim the kop and it needs a younger demographic in there.
 
If L1 still have it in them as a collective & if UFS were able to get people around them joining in then having the two sections apart would be better. What has happened to L1 & what can be done there is a separate question.

Moving the singing section as it is is to the middle of the Kop as it is I think will have little effect, SK2 & SK3 appear no more inclined to join in than those around me in SK4.

Assuming there will be no major reconfiguration, ultimately minor ground reconfiguration (such as mentioned by Elsie) or other inducement (i.e. the opportunities that an expanded stadium may present in terms of pricing options) may provide opportunities.

In the meantime I suspect we're largely stuck and at this time minor improvements only are likely and in that spirit...

One thing that I do think stands out is that when other areas do open their gobs (even if not in large numbers) it is often not with UFS. Now sometimes that is probably as much because they cannot hear them but I think it is also because those who are not in UFS corner are usually reacting to what is happening on the pitch ("Come on Leicester" tending to be the most frequently heard example) and it makes me think that maybe UFS would have more success if they were more often cognisant of what is needed at a specific moment. And in line with something Tartan said, as much as I like a more verbose song (surprise!) they do need to be used carefully.

Overall though, more power to your collective elbows, I'll continue to be giving it some from SK4 though at that distance I find myself too often being behind or in front of the song before it drifts quietly away.
 
Whuru said:
bins the fan cams and Clappers then we ain’t going anywhere regarding atmosphere
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Got to add though that this is a load of ol' tosh. Whilst I have no time for either (to put it mildly, I hate the clappers in particular and have never used one as far as I recall) I don't see that either adversely impacts atmosphere. The fact is that there have always been and will continue to always be a large percentage of fans who just won't sing or even clap their hands regardless but there is a percentage of those who will use clappers. I.e. they aren't using them in lieu of singing. If that is what it takes for them then fine, familiarity breeds contempt and all that but if unknown here & there was a European team's fans using them they'd be a load of people on here wanking themselves silly about what a good idea they were.
 
Go back to the 80’s and 90’s and there were periods of silence. As Buz alluded to fans reacted to what was going on on the pitch and it largely continues like that today.

Union FS just don’t stop or draw breath. That I think goes against you guys.
 
DagenhamFox said:
Union FS just don’t stop or draw breath. That I think goes against you guys.
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It does them great credit too I think but at this stage getting others around them to do that is probably optimistic. I guess my point is though that there may be those who are prepared to join in occasionally at the right moments & that having a feel for what is needed or appropriate when may help. From small acorns an' all that...!
 
I'm in SK2 row W just to the left of the goal so towards the UFS corner. Everyone around us sings and always have. There is also regular singing starting up from the opposite side presumably SK3/4 border. The issue is that its not joined up for long enough due to the many who ain't bothered. Interestingly it appears that there's a lot of atmosphere in the family stand - maybe we should all fook off down that end and have the kop once again next to the away section??
 
Is it too simple to poll those who want to sing and then organise a place for them all in the kop?
 
SK24U said:
I'm in SK2 row W just to the left of the goal so towards the UFS corner. Everyone around us sings and always have. There is also regular singing starting up from the opposite side presumably SK3/4 border. The issue is that its not joined up for long enough due to the many who ain't bothered. Interestingly it appears that there's a lot of atmosphere in the family stand - maybe we should all fook off down that end and have the kop once again next to the away section??
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That’s right. A good end developing there next to the away fans. Block P and P1 are no longer officially the family stand - so essentially the club have done what the fans have asked for for years and allowed the kop next to the away end
 
SK24U said:
I'm in SK2 row W just to the left of the goal so towards the UFS corner. Everyone around us sings and always have. There is also regular singing starting up from the opposite side presumably SK3/4 border. The issue is that its not joined up for long enough due to the many who ain't bothered. Interestingly it appears that there's a lot of atmosphere in the family stand - maybe we should all fook off down that end and have the kop once again next to the away section??
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Given the away fans were in that end of the ground it would be perfect to have the Kop at that end.

The club would never have that though. Too much of a chance of flashpoints post game.
 
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