England women

Not aimed at anybody in particular, just a bit of fun…

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Weller said:
Sorry, I just can't watch women's football simple. Nothing to do with anti English!!! Even though I'm half German 😳😳😳😳😳
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Nothing wrong with that! But I was replying to Lozfox1978, who seemed to imply he would be supporting Spain on Sunday because the English media has committed the monstrous sin of taking the tournament seriously and enjoying the England team’s success. I just found it a bit odd.
 
By any reasonable assessment women's football is of a very very low standard.

However it has improved enormously in a very short time and I hope that it continues to make forward strides.

Would I ever pay to watch it? Not a chance.
 
The England women have represented the Country extremely well and good luck to them.
That said I am bemused that it's been mentioned that they should get the same pay in the WC as the men.
They done this with Grand Slam tennis tournaments.
They campaigned for parity with pay but the equality ended there. Men play best of 5 sets and women 3. So basically men have to work a lot harder to get the same money.
If you worked in an office where women got the same as you but went home at 2pm whilst you had to work till 5pm you wouldn't accept it.
Women's football is much improved, but in terms of appealing to the masses it's a million miles off the men's game.
 
Brauny said:
The England women have represented the Country extremely well and good luck to them.
That said I am bemused that it's been mentioned that they should get the same pay in the WC as the men.
They done this with Grand Slam tennis tournaments.
They campaigned for parity with pay but the equality ended there. Men play best of 5 sets and women 3. So basically men have to work a lot harder to get the same money.
If you worked in an office where women got the same as you but went home at 2pm whilst you had to work till 5pm you wouldn't accept it.
Women's football is much improved, but in terms of appealing to the masses it's a million miles off the men's game.
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Who’s suggested this?
 
ClaphamFox said:
Who’s suggested this?
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It's not an uncommon position. In terms of international football in particular the Americans (and most notably as their spokesperson Meg Rapinoe) have long argued that they should have equal pay as the men but they are not alone. I'm sure you'll find it is discussed relatively regularly. I would be confident that I could find a similar position being taken by some across the game as a whole which, for reasons previously discussed, is just not realistic at this point in time.
 
ClaphamFox said:
Nothing wrong with that! But I was replying to Lozfox1978, who seemed to imply he would be supporting Spain on Sunday because the English media has committed the monstrous sin of taking the tournament seriously and enjoying the England team’s success. I just found it a bit odd.
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You misunderstand my point entirely. I have no problem whatsoever with the media taking it seriously but only for what it is, ie the Womens World Cup. My grouse is with their attempts to elevate the competition to the same level as the men’s competition as they certainly did with the Euros where (particularly female) journalists crowed that the women had achieved what the men had failed to do, ie win the final.

Frankly I couldn’t care less who actually wins on Sunday and I certainly won’t be watching it. Roll on Saturday and the monumental challenge of Cardiff City.
 
It's the constant media bandwagoning, the same media that couldn't be arsed to buy the rights until FIFA threatened them with a media blackout. "ENGLAND'S FIRST WORLD CUP FINAL SINCE 1966". NO IT FUCKING ISNT. It's NOT comparable to the Men's game. That's the point that annoys me. You may as well buy a shirt of a dodgy Chinese site and try to blag the club shop when it falls apart
 
GTIF said:
Correct and also buckin right
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Fair enough!

20 odd years ago I played in a village cricket team against the Englands women cricket team - we won comfortably. If we tried now I would imagine we would get a severe thrashing as they are seriously good cricketers.

no doubt the same will happen with the women footballers, if it hasn’t already, but they will always lack the pace and power of the men’s game.

this is the issue I struggle with the most, be it either footy or cricket
 
Brauny said:
The England women have represented the Country extremely well and good luck to them.
That said I am bemused that it's been mentioned that they should get the same pay in the WC as the men.
They done this with Grand Slam tennis tournaments.
They campaigned for parity with pay but the equality ended there. Men play best of 5 sets and women 3. So basically men have to work a lot harder to get the same money.
If you worked in an office where women got the same as you but went home at 2pm whilst you had to work till 5pm you wouldn't accept it.
Women's football is much improved, but in terms of appealing to the masses it's a million miles off the men's game.
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This is basically what has happened for the last 150 years in reverse.
Even now in 2023 women only earn 90% of what men earn for the same work.
funny that the one time it's mentioned the opposite way around some blokes get upset.
sports of course it's argued are different being based on tv and fan revenue.
however, FIFA run the world cup for both men and women, and one of my big beefs with it is that they rake in billions but expect the national federations to pay the teams along with the prize money they give them, but that means the federations can divert the money somewhere else. no reason FIFA can't pay the players directly instead of the home federations paying the wages. I read Nigeria can't even pay their own players and owe them for stuff as far back as 2021 and they earned $60k each for their performance! Jamaica also have issues with their home federation not paying them.
Infantino promised to pay players directly then went back on his word just before the WC started.
 
Unfortunately in sport, the revenue generated is very much based on the commercial side of things.
I don't know what the viewing figure was for the men's WC final, but whatever it was I'd be surprised if the women's is any more than 5% of the men's final.
Let's face it if England had been knocked out then I doubt even a million people would watch the final in this country.
I expect there will be well over 10M with England involved, but the worldwide audience won't be anything special imo.
 
Brauny said:
Unfortunately in sport, the revenue generated is very much based on the commercial side of things.
I don't know what the viewing figure was for the men's WC final, but whatever it was I'd be surprised if the women's is any more than 5% of the men's final.
Let's face it if England had been knocked out then I doubt even a million people would watch the final in this country.
I expect there will be well over 10M with England involved, but the worldwide audience won't be anything special imo.
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it's a delicate subject, but sometimes you have to put your hands on the scales a little more than some people want to balance things out.
To be fair to Fox over here, they've kept up excellent coverage on free to air tv even though USA got knocked out in the round of 16 and the games are often in the middle of the night (the final starts at 3am my time so i'll be watching it on dvr later than morning). Still plenty of interest.
 
Tuz_Not_Tuzz said:
it's a delicate subject, but sometimes you have to put your hands on the scales a little more than some people want to balance things out.
To be fair to Fox over here, they've kept up excellent coverage on free to air tv even though USA got knocked out in the round of 16 and the games are often in the middle of the night (the final starts at 3am my time so i'll be watching it on dvr later than morning). Still plenty of interest.
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Woke bollox.
 
Lozfox1978 said:
You misunderstand my point entirely. I have no problem whatsoever with the media taking it seriously but only for what it is, ie the Womens World Cup. My grouse is with their attempts to elevate the competition to the same level as the men’s competition as they certainly did with the Euros where (particularly female) journalists crowed that the women had achieved what the men had failed to do, ie win the final.

Frankly I couldn’t care less who actually wins on Sunday and I certainly won’t be watching it. Roll on Saturday and the monumental challenge of Cardiff City.
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