The First World Cup Final Since 66..

jackieguaccamo

jackieguaccamo

Flat Earther
No, no it’s fucking not. Stop trying to pretend that woman’s football is any way shape or form attached to the history of mens football. In fact its not men’s football, it’s just football, just like it always has been. There’s football, and then there’s women football.
 
England Netball reached the World Cup final earlier in the month. Overlooked by the media, lacking the hype, but a World Cup final all the same
 
Hope the roads are quiet as I’ll be towing my caravan.
Bet it’ll be packed the M5 and nobody watching the women
 
Women are taking over the world, it's a conspiracy by the worlds media. Hold on to your chopper lads

I blame Thatcher
 
Club_B00k_Crutchless said:
What "agenda" is it to be showing a national team in a popular sport at the biggest event?
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My opinion is that the BBC's agenda is (generally speaking) two-fold; firstly to be achingly PC (or whatever the correct term for that is these days) in a concerted attempt to a) build whatever support it can muster from anywhere for the continuation of it's licence fee funding, and b) to deflect attention from its many failings. And secondly, to try and convince the British public that one of the very few sports for which they hold the rights is in some bizarre way of equal importance, interest and relevance to everyone as what until recently was known as football.

They do a similar thing with twats 'cricket' for which they have some rights – plastering it all over their website and channels, whilst trying and make out that the 50 over game hasn't been happening. This 'single-messaging' is infuriating if you expect the national broadcaster to provide balanced coverage of a traditional game, but instead only find what suits their agenda.

To conclude, is ladies football popular? In the same way that ladies golf is, I would say. The fact that the BBC is helping to intentionally blur the realities of football is what irritates far more people than the fact that girls play football.
 
TopFox said:
try and convince the British public that one of the very few sports for which they hold the rights is in some bizarre way of equal importance
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More than 50% of the population are women, so it is of equal importance. It's only recently started to be shown on national TV and is increasing in popularity. I would imagine girl's football teams are going to be inundated with new players after the World Cup, which is a good thing.
 
I am also pissed off with the way the media equate the England women achievements with the history of the Men's game, same sport, same rules but women's football is played in a totally different way. The professional game played and developed by men over the last 150 years or more is a complete world away from the women's game in terms of physical strength, pace and power, what ever position you at at goal keeper, defending, attacking, its all all different. I am not saying better, the women footballers are great athletes, are technically very good and the game is exiting and what ever happens on Sunday it is a massive achievement to get to the final - but leave out all the equality shit, it will never be the same as 66, enjoy your game for what it is.
 
TopFox said:
My opinion is that the BBC's agenda is (generally speaking) two-fold; firstly to be achingly PC (or whatever the correct term for that is these days) in a concerted attempt to a) build whatever support it can muster from anywhere for the continuation of it's licence fee funding, and b) to deflect attention from its many failings. And secondly, to try and convince the British public that one of the very few sports for which they hold the rights is in some bizarre way of equal importance, interest and relevance to everyone as what until recently was known as football.

They do a similar thing with twats 'cricket' for which they have some rights – plastering it all over their website and channels, whilst trying and make out that the 50 over game hasn't been happening. This 'single-messaging' is infuriating if you expect the national broadcaster to provide balanced coverage of a traditional game, but instead only find what suits their agenda.

To conclude, is ladies football popular? In the same way that ladies golf is, I would say. The fact that the BBC is helping to intentionally blur the realities of football is what irritates far more people than the fact that girls play football.
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Think there's a bit of an over-read here - the bottom line is England are good & have been great at dealing with some technically competent teams.

Even if they lose on Sunday they will surely encourage more girls & women to play football, which means the pool of talent grows.

If the media didn't mention it, then it would suppress that development, the inequality would continue & it would reinforce in the minds of some that it has no relevance in being reported, or have importance in the sports world.

As with so many other things, people get riled about it even though it doesn't affect them directly or significantly, & there are more important things to actually get foot-stompy about.
 
Club_B00k_Crutchless said:
More than 50% of the population are women, so it is of equal importance.
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So you equate importance to population share, not the actual levels of interest / history / relevance to people?
That's not the way that media coverage is usually determined, is it? Hence why I say there is a specific agenda being followed, whether people see it or not.
 
Mistryman said:
Think there's a bit of an over-read here - the bottom line is England are good & have been great at dealing with some technically competent teams.

Even if they lose on Sunday they will surely encourage more girls & women to play football, which means the pool of talent grows.

If the media didn't mention it, then it would suppress that development, the inequality would continue & it would reinforce in the minds of some that it has no relevance in being reported, or have importance in the sports world.

As with so many other things, people get riled about it even though it doesn't affect them directly or significantly, & there are more important things to actually get foot-stompy about.
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No over-read, no 'foot-stompy'. No disagreement about the media mentioning it. Just Jackie's point – blurring the obvious differences between football and ladies football is not comparing apples with apples. Pretending that it is the same is annoying bollocks.
Not the end of the world – which I suspect is why no-one's making placards and booking trains to London to protest on the streets – but like so many things that can be the thin end of the wedge, they're worthy of comment and opinion.
I was asked why I used the term agenda, so I explained.
 
TopFox said:
So you equate importance to population share, not the actual levels of interest / history / relevance to people?
That's not the way that media coverage is usually determined, is it? Hence why I say there is a specific agenda being followed, whether people see it or not.
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11 million people watched the semi final in the UK. That seems like a good level of interest/relevance tp people.
Now I expect a few will claim 'well they would say that'.
 
hackneyfox said:
11 million people watched the semi final in the UK. That seems like a good level of interest/relevance tp people.
Now I expect a few will claim 'well they would say that'.
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I don’t doubt your television viewing figures, does that put it up there with Love Island and Britain’s Got Talent?
 
hackneyfox said:
11 million people watched the semi final in the UK. That seems like a good level of interest/relevance tp people.
Now I expect a few will claim 'well they would say that'.
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If you want to blur the lines between one-off flagship events and week-in, week-out support, fine. But that's the same game that the BBC are trying to play.
Mincing about to terrible pop is popular once a year and draws a big TV audience, but you wouldn't equate Eurovision to proper music, or would you?
 
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