The First World Cup Final Since 66..

Well I'm cheering for them. When that fat chick stepped on the other chick's bum, I figured it was all over. BUT!

two world wars and two world cups! (y):cool:

if they win, does the men's team get another star above the national crest?
 
If you want to blur the lines between one-off flagship events and week-in, week-out support, fine. But that's the same game that the BBC are trying to play.
Mincing about to terrible pop is popular once a year and draws a big TV audience, but you wouldn't equate Eurovision to proper music, or would you?
23 million watched the men's semi-final between England and Sweden in 2021, for the women to get nearly 50 % of that is a stunning turnaround in viewing figures compared to a few years back. I'd have thought that more than supported the 'game the BBC are trying to play'.

Makes me smile when they put women's (or the sweaties) results after PL and before EFL, just don't feel the need to reach for the green pen.
That Paddy Power advert is getting more relevant by every post.
 
How many will be watching “top level” ladies football in January when it’s cold and pissing down
The same hundred-odd a time as last winter, I'd guess.
Arsenal Ladies average 17501 per game so they must have some fucking huge attendances when the weather is decent if they only get 'hundred-odd as last winter' when it's cold and pissing down'.
 
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If you want to blur the lines between one-off flagship events and week-in, week-out support, fine. But that's the same game that the BBC are trying to play.
Mincing about to terrible pop is popular once a year and draws a big TV audience, but you wouldn't equate Eurovision to proper music, or would you?
Depends on what you think 'proper music' is. Music is very much down to people's personal tastes and I've learnt not to assume that I know better than others. Bit boring if we all liked the same stuff and it would make getting tickets somewhat difficult.
All the 'old cunts' told me there wouldn't be a punk band going in 2 years time, probably what similar 'old cunts' said to them about The Stones and what 'old cunts' like me think when I hear my lad's music and yet he's been listening to the same type of stuff for some time now.
 
Arsenal Ladies average 17501 per game so they must have some fucking huge attendances when the weather is decent if they only get 'hundred-odd as last winter' when it's cold and pissing down'.
Don't Arsenal ST holders get into the birds kick around for free though? False economy.
 
Arsenal Ladies average 17501 per game so they must have some fucking huge attendances when the weather is decent if they only get 'hundred-odd as last winter' when it's cold and pissing down'.
So you missed the 'I guess' bit when cherry-picking probably one of 2 or 3 stats that back up your agreeing that a ladies' World Cup win would be the equal of a men's win. Well done.
Back to the OP, it's like claiming the FA Trophy is the same as the FA Cup – bollocks. Everyone knows that attendances are increasing as a result of the higher profile, which is just as good news as ladies rugby becoming more popular. But at least no-one's yet trying to claim the two rugby games are the same thing, but it won't be long I'm sure.
 
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Makes me smile when they put women's (or the sweaties) results after PL and before EFL
Makes me think that the BBC has an agenda that's different to simply reflecting the reality of sports' profile, interest, fans, etc. But great minds can think differently
 
Leading to what?
Fuck me, are you going to go through every fucking post phrase by phrase? :sleep:
As you probably full well know, I was referring to the way that some things start as innocent-sounding options or a trial or whatever, only for people to find that leads to unhelpful or undesirable things becoming the norm. Or the re-writing of history.
You know, things like phone ST tickets, or ID for ticket collection, or Chelsea winning the PL for us – ideas which people choose to express an opinion on. And for me, fucking stupid ideas that often need to be nipped in the bud before they gain traction and become 'the truth'.
 
Fuck me, are you going to go through every fucking post phrase by phrase?
What, replying to something in a conversation? How silly of me.


You know, things like phone ST tickets, or ID for ticket collection, or Chelsea winning the PL for us – ideas which people choose to express an opinion on. And for me, fucking stupid ideas that often need to be nipped in the bud before they gain traction and become 'the truth'.
It's showing football played by women. What a fuckin stupid idea. Nip it in the bud.
 
So you missed the 'I guess' bit when cherry-picking probably one of 2 or 3 stats that back up your agreeing that a ladies' World Cup win would be the equal of a men's win.
I didn’t agree that, I was pointing out the fact that a lot of people watch women’s football on the telly and some even attend live games in the middle of winter.

Why ‘guess’ you’re on the internet so it’s easy enough to check and not make yourself appear to be not such a great mind.
 
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What, replying to something in a conversation? How silly of me.



It's showing football played by women. What a fuckin stupid idea. Nip it in the bud.
Get you two, liking each others posts all the time. Oooh, friends...


Precisely which part of me saying in post 23 "No disagreement about the media mentioning it." do you not understand?

This whole thread's not about the BBC showing ladies football, but you're seemingly too tired or pissed or stupid to remember the point.
 
Why ‘guess’ you’re on the internet so it’s easy enough to check and not make yourself appear to be not such a great mind.
Because I'm meant to be working, and don't have time to endlessly check the web.

But what I do know, from someone who volunteers for a top club with a ladies team, is that the FA insists that their attendances include every single person in the ground, paid entry or not. And that all the clubs who were selected on the basis of business plans (eg Man Utd and Man City preferred over Doncaster Belles, etc) are marked against their declared crowd expectations guessed in those plans, so there's a hell of an incentive to inflate the reality. He counted the people at a couple of games, and the announced attendance was 2-1/2 times higher in one case, and 3 times on the other occasion.

Leicester ladies declare about 3k average, but study the photos and you'd be hard pushed to find that many in the sea of blue seats. But that's just an opinion from a not great mind.
 
Arsenal vs Totteringham wsl images look pretty packed to me. Bloody FA and BBC must have forced them all to sit on the the same side of the pitch. IMG_5406.jpegIMG_5406.jpeg
 
Undoubtedly there’s a massaging of numbers to help promote the game but that’s not unknown in the men’s version.
 
Arsenal vs Totteringham wsl images look pretty packed to me. Bloody FA and BBC must have forced them all to sit on the the same side of the pitch. View attachment 5998View attachment 5998
I know from someone who volunteers for Arsenal Ladies that they have to get there early on a match day and carry all those manikins to the seats just to support the BBC plot to convince the hard of thinking that Wimmins footy is more popular than they think it is.
 
I know from someone who volunteers for Arsenal Ladies that they have to get there early on a match day and carry all those manikins to the seats just to support the BBC plot to convince the hard of thinking that Wimmins footy is more popular than they think it is.
I would have liked this but it would have brought on comments about ‘friends’.
 
Wonder what the viewing figures will be for Sunday, should be at least one up on the semi figure as hopefully I’ll be a glory hunter and watch my first game.
If it hits 15m then there will be claims of lies, agendas and the thicker parts of wedges. The world as we know it may end.
 
No, no it’s fucking not. Stop trying to pretend that woman’s football is any way shape or form attached to the history of mens football. In fact its not men’s football, it’s just football, just like it always has been. There’s football, and then there’s women football.
Bit obsessed with all this ain’t yer?
 
Red Pill anyone.

All professional sport is a commodity that is packaged by the 'rights' owners and sold to the public for money, simple as that.

Of course the 'rights' owners market and hype their product in order to maximise their income, that is accepted, we, the punters usually have a choice to buy the product or not.

For example I have the full Sky sports package, I really only watch football, cricket and top level rugby union, I may occasionally watch a 'big event', the Ryder cup for example, but the umpteen other sports available I ignore. I have it because I deem what I pay to be fair for what I watch, simple. This works for any sports product on any platform.

Except for the BBC. They are the state broadcaster funded by the taxpayer, ie we have no choice, you can still be sent to prison for non payment of the Telly tax. Their funding, though limited, is secure so the usual commercial pressures do not apply which has, in my view, turned the BBC into the propaganda arm of the state, who they support in all matters.

I believe the BBC has/had a Charter to ensure fairness and balance but given the selective nature of the programs and the consistent stream of lies, this no longer appears to apply.

So to sum up, will I watch the girls tomorrow, perhaps. I shall be preparing and cooking lunch so may well have it on in the background for the actual game, but all the punditry and other bollocks will be muted. Bear in mind that I have already paid for this, so whether I watch or not is irrelevant to all parties
 
Red Pill anyone.

All professional sport is a commodity that is packaged by the 'rights' owners and sold to the public for money, simple as that.

Of course the 'rights' owners market and hype their product in order to maximise their income, that is accepted, we, the punters usually have a choice to buy the product or not.

For example I have the full Sky sports package, I really only watch football, cricket and top level rugby union, I may occasionally watch a 'big event', the Ryder cup for example, but the umpteen other sports available I ignore. I have it because I deem what I pay to be fair for what I watch, simple. This works for any sports product on any platform.

Except for the BBC. They are the state broadcaster funded by the taxpayer, ie we have no choice, you can still be sent to prison for non payment of the Telly tax. Their funding, though limited, is secure so the usual commercial pressures do not apply which has, in my view, turned the BBC into the propaganda arm of the state, who they support in all matters.

I believe the BBC has/had a Charter to ensure fairness and balance but given the selective nature of the programs and the consistent stream of lies, this no longer appears to apply.

So to sum up, will I watch the girls tomorrow, perhaps. I shall be preparing and cooking lunch so may well have it on in the background for the actual game, but all the punditry and other bollocks will be muted. Bear in mind that I have already paid for this, so whether I watch or not is irrelevant to all parties
Agree with most of that except the bit about the BBC being the arm of the state. More accurately the BBC has become the woke arm of the liberal left who go out their way to report negativity on anything the Government says or does with, as you say, their consistent stream of lies (and distortions).

Now where’s my season ticket - time to leave for something that’s really important 😉
 
I’m sure it’s only by pure coincidence, but those extolling the virtues of the women’s football seem to be the very same posters that took offence to criticisms of Brendan Rodgers.
Bizarre
 
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