Brexit and fishing rights.

SardiniaFox said:
It was 350m a week. Apart from it is actually more like 180m.

350bn works out at 1000 weeks.
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Read the Post SF.

We were discussing trade between the UK and EU.

In 2019 the UK bought nearly £350 billion in goods from the EU. We sell less than half that amount to them if you put aside financial services.
 
AFCDorset said:
Read the Post SF.

We were discussing trade between the UK and EU.

In 2019 the UK bought nearly £350 billion in goods from the EU. We sell less than half that amount to them if you put aside financial services.
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Why put aside the biggest chunk?
 
Running Fox said:
We do not get a 10% discount, we get a 100 billion pound trade deficit. if we applied tariffs that makes us 12 Billion pounds better off. our standards are superior to the EUs so your toy analogy does not make sense. We are the 5th biggest economy in the world its like 16 smaller countries leaving the EU, they need us more than we need them.
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That literally makes no sense.
We have a trade deficit because we buy more from the EU than we sell all with no tariffs. We don't buy at a higher price and sell for a lower price. It's volume not cost. The only way to reduce the deficit is buy less or sell more.
If the UK applies tariffs to eu imports uk prices will go up, so the uk consumer will pay the cost, not the EU. So where does this magical 12 billion come from, you're own population .
Import tariffs are paid for by he population of the importing country not the exporting one.
Literally, nobody applies tariffs on exports because it makes you artificially uncompetitive and people will go elsewhere.
 
It is not 'who' pays but the effect that it has on volume that matters.

Some goods can, if we are outside the eu, be sourced elsewhere, some can not. The world is a marketplace, make your choices and buy or don't buy, the market will adjust, so will we.
 
AFCDorset said:
It is not 'who' pays but the effect that it has on volume that matters.

Some goods can, if we are outside the eu, be sourced elsewhere, some can not. The world is a marketplace, make your choices and buy or don't buy, the market will adjust, so will we.
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Yeah, to a 2-4% hit on GDP ...
 
Club_B00k_Crutchless said:
You seem to be conveniently overlooking the fact that we sold off our quotas to EU fisherman, and over 25% of our current fleet is owned by 5 rich families.
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The new proposal is that ships will have to land there catch in Britain and owners will have to have a British address, the idea is that British fisherman will have preference. Saying that Boris may well sell us out?
 
Fish is the latest nonsense thrown out by the ERG and Murdoch media to stir up the populace . The desperation of a handful of billionaires to avoid their fair share of tax is now trying to convince us that a few hundred fishermen catching fish we don’t eat is worth screwing the other 99.8% of our economy for
 
Looks like the Government sell out is right on track.

Continue to let the EU plunder our fish for free, continue to pay our 'contribution', allow someone else to control our trade policy.

Probably other stuff too, but I got too depressed and stopped reading.
 
AFCDorset said:
Looks like the Government sell out is right on track.

Continue to let the EU plunder our fish for free, continue to pay our 'contribution', allow someone else to control our trade policy.

Probably other stuff too, but I got too depressed and stopped reading.
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Fishing only accounts for less than 5% of the economy so I don't care ,more important what are the doing for all those thousands of people who've recently been made redundant I bet the fishing industry don't give a flying fuck about them.
 
Harwichfox said:
Fishing only accounts for less than 5% of the economy so I don't care ,more important what are the doing for all those thousands of people who've recently been made redundant I bet the fishing industry don't give a flying fuck about them.
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Another one who does not 'get it'.

it isn't about the money, it never was. They are our fish in our waters, whatever happens to them is our decision, not France's not the EU's, ours.

As an independent country we should not do that, just as we should not allow our trade policy to be policed by the ECJ, the enforcement arm of the EU.

I fear that these principals are about to be conceded by our spineless government. Brino in other words.
 
We'll get the majority of our rights back, all depends on the percentage and how long it'll take.
Fishing only counts for 0.1% of GDP at the moment, is it worth trashing the future for a principle?

AFC

Interesting read from The Fishing Daily
thefishingdaily.com

3.5% of Britain's GDP for UK's fishing industry impossible says Professor

A claim the UK's fishing industry has the potential to grow to 3.5% of Britains GDP has been questioned by a professor Richard Barnes
thefishingdaily.com thefishingdaily.com
 
Plenty of rumours, even some speculative stuff on MSM about a sellout deal by the government to the EU.

Fishing concessions, 'level playing field', Uk remains subject to the ECJ, the whole 9 yards. all signed over Christmas in the middle of the Covid panic so that no one notices.

The spin on this will be so ferocious it will upset gravity on jackieg's flat world.
 
hackneyfox said:
Spin or just cold, harsh facts and reality?
Have you read my link above? Is it worth risking so much for so little?
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Surely works both ways. The French GDP for fishing is minute, so why is it bitterly contested ? Only Denmark and Spain fished more tonnage than us. It shouldn't be an issue unless of course a certain organisation is terrified that the UK might encourage other nations to rethink their positions.
 
It's contested because they'd lose their rights quicker if they gave us what we want. They'll still lose most of those rights over the next 5 to 7 years, just gives them more time to adapt. If you've read the link I posted you'll see that we can't even fish the quota we're asking for, we don't have the capacity. It can be built up but not quickly. It also mentions “The third obstacle is labour shortages because the sector is quite dependent on overseas skilled crew. More fishing will require more labour but this could be restricted due to migration rules.
 
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